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Government IsUs
2010-10-17 15:10:51 UTC
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Didn't these bros fund Cato and Heritage Foundation think tanks too?

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/10/14/koch-industries-shifts-on-tea-par=
ty/

Koch Industries Shifts on Tea Party

By Jonathan Weisman
snip
Facing a new round of scrutiny, Koch Industries is refining its position
that it
has not directly funded the tea party movement, saying that
=E2=80=9Cuntil recently=E2=80=9D the
energy giant =E2=80=9Chad never been approached by a tea party group for
funding.=E2=80=9D

A new Internet documentary, [Astro]Turf Wars, features a long video clip
of Koch
Industries owner David Koch at a gathering of the conservative group
Americans
for Prosperity, boasting of his funding of the group at its inception
and
applauding as one tea party activist after another stands to talk up his
or her
efforts. Americans for Prosperity has trained and financed many of those
efforts. ...

.Koch officials and David Koch have said they have not supported the
tea party
movement, but shown the video by the Journal, officials shifted their
language.

end snip

Koch parody ad placed in Times Square

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/consumer-watchdog-exposes-koch-ind=
ustrie
s-on-times-square-superscreen-for-pollution-tea-party-funding-and-climate-=
change
-denial-using-coke-parody-104854359.html

snip
A national consumer group is running a 30 second commercial on a Times
Square
Superscreen that challenges Koch Industries, "the largest oil company
you've
never heard of," for its record of environmental degradation, political
influence, Tea Party funding and climate change denial.

The parody of a Coca Cola commercial exposes Koch (pronounced Coke)
Industries
in the largest public square in America on a 520 square foot screen
eighteen
times per day and is sponsored by Consumer Watchdog and its
Oilwatchdog.org
project....

Watch the Times Square advertisement and read about Koch Industries
here:
http://www.oilwatchdog.org/meet-koch-industries/.

"Koch Industries is not a household name, but in the world of right
wing,
anti-environment politics, the Koch brothers have become an uber-brand,"
said
Jamie Court, president of Consumer Watchdog and author of The
Progressive's
Guide To Raising Hell (Chelsea Green).

"Koch stands for climate change denial,
global warming, cash-register politics and propping up of the Tea Party.
Every
American should know this company and what its owners stand for."

Consumer Watchdog noted that Koch Industries was named one of the top
ten air
polluters in the United States (Source "Toxic 100 Air Polluters,"
http://www.peri.umass.edu/toxic_index/). In addition, since 1997, the
Koch
foundations have contributed over $48 million in grants to climate
opposition
groups (Source: Greenpeace, "Koch Industries Secretly Funding the
Climate Denial
Machine," March 2010). The Koch Family Foundations have donated over
$17
million to organizations that "educate," train, and organize the Tea
Party.

Consumer Watchdog also noted that a subsidiary of Koch Industries
recently
contributed $1 million to the ballot measure campaign to repeal
California's
greenhouse gas emissions cap, Proposition 23 on the November ballot. The
Tea
Party is working against Proposition 23 as well.... end snip

New internet Movie on Kochs ---
http://www.vidsurf.net/video/xv99k7MPoXo/AstroTurf_Wars__Tea_Party_Documen=
tary.h
tml

Should people start thinking of boycotting all things Koch? They own
Georgia
Pacific (I think they own Brawny paper towels, Angle Soft toilet paper,
Dixie
paper plates, cups
and forks. Let's not forget Georgia Pacific lumber. They might make good
money
on those new blue touch less paper towel dispensers we see in public
bathrooms.
Invista carpeting (maybe Stainmaster?)? Talk to all of their employees
and ask
how can they work for these people?

Of course we should also be boycotting all News Corp stuff (Fox news,
Fox
stations, other 20thCentury Fox Movies, the actors (again asking them
how can
they work for these people). Doesn't Fox also own many CBS stations and
newspapers
(Wall Street Journal etc)?
Adam Smith
2010-10-24 14:40:57 UTC
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Fun fact - did you know Adam Smith, the hero to many people on Economic
matters from the publication of his book "The Wealth Of Nations"
actually thought his better book was "The Theory Of Moral Sentiments".

All of the following post is my opinion. Anything that looks like a
factual statement is still just my opinion.

The other day I was act a function where I heard and participated in The
Pledge of Allegiance. I don't want any of this to be political but that
did bring a tear to my eyes. (I personally would like us to have more
than a 2 party system).

If Koch, Murdoch and their money keep paying to daily subvert the US
Government, as they have for 30 years - we will end up never believing
(as a whole) in the USA. OF COURSE the government has problems - it can
get too big, lets fight fraud, abuse and waste all the no brainer stuff
.. but it makes economic sense (besides morally) to have a good
functioning Government.

Historians know the USA has never been perfect but if someone with Koch
or Murdochs money would have always made a drum beat over each and every
mistake on the news 24/7 we'd have never gotten past 1776!

As Koch and Murdoch pays daily to hammer the US Government WHO defends
the Government and mentions DAILY WHAT THEY DO RIGHT?

I like a safe country (defense), clean water, clean food, safe cars,
safe consumer products, decent roads, good air and have appreciated how
blessed this Nation as been by having a Strong Government for over 250
years.

Besides the erroneous Economic idea that we MUST ALWAYS HAVE GROWTH for
the US to prosper, that we haven't pushed for FAIR TRADE in World Trade
overall we're not doing to bad.

In reading of things like "The Financial Times", "The Economist" and
watching Bloomberg TV have led me to seriously believe most economists
think - yes deregulation and lack of enforced Federal Laws led us close
to a depression. It also looks to me from these reading that we should
have had more GOOD infrastructure stimulus, bigger deficits (for now)
to get us out of this. I realize these are complicated arguments not
great for 'pithy one liners'.

Of course the constant drum beat of Koch and Murdoch disagree with the
Government doing anything and particularly anything that might cost them
more in taxes. Again they hurt the USA and the belief in America.

This looked a bit far fetched to me but thought it might prove to be
interesting -
Two Supreme Court Judges, Fox News People, some big business names etc
and a Koch private party ...

http://technorati.com/politics/article/a-citizens-united-conspiracy-were-supreme/page-1/
Huge
2010-10-24 16:05:58 UTC
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Post by Adam Smith
Pledge of Allegiance. I don't want any of this to be political but that
If Koch,
(as a whole) in the USA. OF COURSE the government has problems - it can
Historians know the USA has never been perfect but if someone with Koch
As Koch and Murdoch pays daily to hammer the US Government WHO defends
the US to prosper, that we haven't pushed for FAIR TRADE in World Trade
Of course the constant drum beat of Koch
Two Supreme Court Judges, Fox News People, some big business names etc
and a Koch private party ...
Hey, dickwad. Yes, you. With the drool. Which bit of "UK" is it you don't
understand?
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