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Privatised police arrive on the street
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Old Boy
2006-11-27 18:28:24 UTC
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A radical change in the way we police Britain has sneaked in below the
radar over the past 18 months. In a series of Home Office initiatives
designed to add manpower with particular skills or knowledge to the
regular police force, six new groups of privately sponsored police have
been introduced into the Met and are being deployed in a number of the
provincial forces.

Although they belong to the part-time, normally unpaid branch of the
police - the so-called 'special constables' - there is a big
difference: their time and training is paid for by private sector
employers who agree to loan them to the police for 200 hours a year.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=925
bongo
2006-11-27 18:40:08 UTC
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Post by Old Boy
A radical change in the way we police Britain has sneaked in below the
radar over the past 18 months. In a series of Home Office initiatives
designed to add manpower with particular skills or knowledge to the
regular police force, six new groups of privately sponsored police have
been introduced into the Met and are being deployed in a number of the
provincial forces.
Although they belong to the part-time, normally unpaid branch of the
police - the so-called 'special constables' - there is a big
difference: their time and training is paid for by private sector
employers who agree to loan them to the police for 200 hours a year.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=925
this part says alot
"I cannot see how a police officer can easily retain his or her independence
when their salaries are being paid by Dixons or Woolworth's."
Dr Zoidberg
2006-11-27 18:51:57 UTC
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Post by bongo
Post by Old Boy
A radical change in the way we police Britain has sneaked in below
the radar over the past 18 months. In a series of Home Office
initiatives designed to add manpower with particular skills or
knowledge to the regular police force, six new groups of privately
sponsored police have been introduced into the Met and are being
deployed in a number of the provincial forces.
Although they belong to the part-time, normally unpaid branch of the
police - the so-called 'special constables' - there is a big
difference: their time and training is paid for by private sector
employers who agree to loan them to the police for 200 hours a year.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=925
this part says alot
"I cannot see how a police officer can easily retain his or her
independence when their salaries are being paid by Dixons or
Woolworth's."
It's been common practice for decades for police costs to be paid by various
companies when they are needed above and beyond what is usual.
Think of large outdoor events , football matches , etc , etc.

In all these situations the overtime is effectively paid for by a third
party but that isn't seen as a conflict of interest
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Van Helsing
2006-11-27 19:16:52 UTC
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Post by Dr Zoidberg
Post by bongo
this part says alot
"I cannot see how a police officer can easily retain his or her
independence when their salaries are being paid by Dixons or
Woolworth's."
It's been common practice for decades for police costs to be paid by various
companies when they are needed above and beyond what is usual.
Think of large outdoor events , football matches , etc , etc.
In all these situations the overtime is effectively paid for by a third
party but that isn't seen as a conflict of interest
I doubt the money from football clubs goes directly to the pockets of
the police officers involved, nor do the police officers exchange their
uniforms for football kit & run out onto the pitch to play.


VH
Steve O
2006-11-28 21:42:59 UTC
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Post by Dr Zoidberg
Post by bongo
this part says alot
"I cannot see how a police officer can easily retain his or her
independence when their salaries are being paid by Dixons or
Woolworth's."
It's been common practice for decades for police costs to be paid by
various companies when they are needed above and beyond what is usual.
Think of large outdoor events , football matches , etc , etc.
In all these situations the overtime is effectively paid for by a third
party but that isn't seen as a conflict of interest
I doubt the money from football clubs goes directly to the pockets of the
police officers involved,
Actually, it does in my area
Officers policing football matches in their own time aree paid at private
cost.
nor do the police officers exchange their uniforms for football kit & run
out onto the pitch to play.
I wish ;-)
Martin Milan
2006-11-27 21:56:54 UTC
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Post by bongo
Post by Old Boy
A radical change in the way we police Britain has sneaked in below the
radar over the past 18 months. In a series of Home Office initiatives
designed to add manpower with particular skills or knowledge to the
regular police force, six new groups of privately sponsored police
have been introduced into the Met and are being deployed in a number
of the provincial forces.
Although they belong to the part-time, normally unpaid branch of the
police - the so-called 'special constables' - there is a big
difference: their time and training is paid for by private sector
employers who agree to loan them to the police for 200 hours a year.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=925
this part says alot
"I cannot see how a police officer can easily retain his or her
independence when their salaries are being paid by Dixons or
Woolworth's."
That's an argument you might have against any special constable, or
indeed any married one...

Martin.
Steve Walker
2006-11-27 23:07:57 UTC
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Post by Martin Milan
Post by bongo
this part says alot
"I cannot see how a police officer can easily retain his or her
independence when their salaries are being paid by Dixons or
Woolworth's."
That's an argument you might have against any special constable, or
indeed any married one...
I disagree. A person might be a special or a forces reservist, or indeed a
St John's Ambulancer, and their employer grants them some time off as a
civic gesture - that's fine & dandy.

In this case however, employers are nominating and sponsoring their staff to
obtain the powers of a constable, having presumably identified
business/profit advantages which they can gain from this. It dangerously
blurs the line of acountability and motivation, in my respectful view.
Martin Milan
2006-11-28 00:24:43 UTC
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Post by Steve Walker
Post by Martin Milan
Post by bongo
this part says alot
"I cannot see how a police officer can easily retain his or her
independence when their salaries are being paid by Dixons or
Woolworth's."
That's an argument you might have against any special constable, or
indeed any married one...
I disagree. A person might be a special or a forces reservist, or
indeed a St John's Ambulancer, and their employer grants them some
time off as a civic gesture - that's fine & dandy.
In this case however, employers are nominating and sponsoring their
staff to obtain the powers of a constable, having presumably
identified business/profit advantages which they can gain from this.
It dangerously blurs the line of acountability and motivation, in my
respectful view.
My point being that most special constables are employed by someone
else, and that this might be argued to have an effect on their
independence.
a***@white-eagle.invalid.uk
2006-11-28 21:21:57 UTC
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Post by Steve Walker
Post by Martin Milan
Post by bongo
this part says alot
"I cannot see how a police officer can easily retain his or her
independence when their salaries are being paid by Dixons or
Woolworth's."
That's an argument you might have against any special constable, or
indeed any married one...
I disagree. A person might be a special or a forces reservist, or indeed a
St John's Ambulancer, and their employer grants them some time off as a
civic gesture - that's fine & dandy.
In this case however, employers are nominating and sponsoring their staff to
obtain the powers of a constable, having presumably identified
business/profit advantages which they can gain from this. It dangerously
blurs the line of acountability and motivation, in my respectful view.
It is incredibly so. Do not people understand that while ordinary
shop staff can only legally arrest in the full knowledge that a
crime has been committed, than a constable can arrest on mere
suspicion?

The next move will be that these store police can carry guns! This is
not a joke... it happens in many countries.

Axel
m.kellett
2006-12-08 04:40:42 UTC
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Post by Old Boy
A radical change in the way we police Britain has sneaked in below the
radar over the past 18 months. In a series of Home Office initiatives
designed to add manpower with particular skills or knowledge to the
regular police force, six new groups of privately sponsored police have
been introduced into the Met and are being deployed in a number of the
provincial forces.
Although they belong to the part-time, normally unpaid branch of the
police - the so-called 'special constables' - there is a big
difference: their time and training is paid for by private sector
employers who agree to loan them to the police for 200 hours a year.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=925
milou
2006-12-08 14:13:22 UTC
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On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:40:42 -0800, "m.kellett"
Post by m.kellett
You should first be aware that the Judicial Oath sworn by all UK judges and
magistrates only to Queen Elizabeth II is a fraud of massive proportions.
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