Discussion:
pointless rules about prisons
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Sparky
2006-08-07 10:39:17 UTC
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What is the point of Governments, Prison Boards etc making laws if at
ground level in the prison they are ignored? My partner is 60, has
mental and physical problems including multilevel degeneration disease
and osteoarthritis of the spinal discs, in addition to a few things
like vertigo, 50% hearing loss, ulcers, tinnitus, episodic confusion
and amnesia during these episodes. All medically documented, all
information provided to HMP Elmley.
He was abused. Reluctantly I made a complaint. We're not stupid. We can
work out this is not the way to make friends and influence prison
officers.
Hes prescribed 120 mg morphine a day minimum for pain, in addition to
painkilling injections,
and paracetamol.

Day after complaint
Morphine cut to 60mg am.
Pain relief injections - already missed on on entry to Elmley, told he
will not have more
Parcetamol - allowed up to 10 x 500mg a day. but its a long walk to the
pharmacy and wait. Its supposed to be taken immediately breakthrough
pain is felt to be effective.

Brighton court requested his prescence Friday 12th August.

Now Friday 12 July he managed the trip whilst in total shock at July
verdict, time in cells, Lewes to Elmley, and all they admitted him to
the healthcare wing for was a mobility test.

Friday 12th August - escort took one look at him and refused to take
him. Taken back to cells. Half an hour later escort presumably after
heated discussion started journey to Brighton. Had to return. Dont like
deaths on escort duty.

Look how his condition deteriorated in a month.

Complaints from me. A lone voice at the moment. So his morphine was
reluctantly reinstated. at 30mg instead of 60. And he is already
missing the vital pain relief injection and back up paracetamol. Great
this because it makes withdrawal actually worse.

Hes 60. To our total shock he was convicted of a sex offence crime 30
yrs ago, we never believed it could happen, but ok, the law is the law.
He should have lied through his teeth and pleaded guilty. We're not
going to risk an appeal, thats how much confidence we have in the legal
system.

Even if he was guilty, should he really be treated like this? Inhumane.
Abuse of his Human Rights. Our right to a family since hes in Kent and
I'm in brighton, disabled and cant get to him. Oh, I forget. Elmley
claimed he lost his visitors booking slips. Well now you would wouldn't
you. So no one has been able to see him since 12th July. And only me
frantically writing letters.

I dont suppose anyone is interested, but when you are on morphine if
you know you have a strenous day ahead, you increase it, in his case up
to 160mg. to cope.
And they reduced it by 50%

I did manage to speak to someone more or less by accident on the
healthcare wing. You see despite holding power of attorney over my
partners affairs since basically there are only the two of us (I am
disabled, he was my sole carer, so this is a sentence for me too, but
hey I was the one who said, Justice! We clear our name ) the
switchboard generally explain they cant put anyone but medical
professionals through to the medical wing.

Human rights - our right to a family.

Complain - your partner gets abused more. If you dont believe me get
medical advice, he could have died friday with the
Elmley-Brighton-Elmey round trip on massively reduced medication. They
didn't even tell him where he was going so imagine the confusion
intended, the shock, the pain. Hes getting more and more frail.

so whats the point of having laws, PSI PSO if they are ignored anyway?
5th Horseman of the Apocalypse
2006-08-10 00:10:53 UTC
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Post by Sparky
What is the point of Governments, Prison Boards etc making laws if at
ground level in the prison they are ignored? My partner is 60, has
mental and physical problems including multilevel degeneration disease
and osteoarthritis of the spinal discs, in addition to a few things
like vertigo, 50% hearing loss, ulcers, tinnitus, episodic confusion
and amnesia during these episodes. All medically documented, all
information provided to HMP Elmley.
He was abused. Reluctantly I made a complaint. We're not stupid. We can
work out this is not the way to make friends and influence prison
officers.
Hes prescribed 120 mg morphine a day minimum for pain, in addition to
painkilling injections,
and paracetamol.
Day after complaint
Morphine cut to 60mg am.
Pain relief injections - already missed on on entry to Elmley, told he
will not have more
Parcetamol - allowed up to 10 x 500mg a day. but its a long walk to the
pharmacy and wait. Its supposed to be taken immediately breakthrough
pain is felt to be effective.
Brighton court requested his prescence Friday 12th August.
Now Friday 12 July he managed the trip whilst in total shock at July
verdict, time in cells, Lewes to Elmley, and all they admitted him to
the healthcare wing for was a mobility test.
Friday 12th August - escort took one look at him and refused to take
him. Taken back to cells. Half an hour later escort presumably after
heated discussion started journey to Brighton. Had to return. Dont like
deaths on escort duty.
Look how his condition deteriorated in a month.
Complaints from me. A lone voice at the moment. So his morphine was
reluctantly reinstated. at 30mg instead of 60. And he is already
missing the vital pain relief injection and back up paracetamol. Great
this because it makes withdrawal actually worse.
Hes 60. To our total shock he was convicted of a sex offence crime 30
yrs ago, we never believed it could happen, but ok, the law is the law.
He should have lied through his teeth and pleaded guilty. We're not
going to risk an appeal, thats how much confidence we have in the legal
system.
Even if he was guilty, should he really be treated like this? Inhumane.
Abuse of his Human Rights. Our right to a family since hes in Kent and
I'm in brighton, disabled and cant get to him. Oh, I forget. Elmley
claimed he lost his visitors booking slips. Well now you would wouldn't
you. So no one has been able to see him since 12th July. And only me
frantically writing letters.
I dont suppose anyone is interested, but when you are on morphine if
you know you have a strenous day ahead, you increase it, in his case up
to 160mg. to cope.
And they reduced it by 50%
I did manage to speak to someone more or less by accident on the
healthcare wing. You see despite holding power of attorney over my
partners affairs since basically there are only the two of us (I am
disabled, he was my sole carer, so this is a sentence for me too, but
hey I was the one who said, Justice! We clear our name ) the
switchboard generally explain they cant put anyone but medical
professionals through to the medical wing.
Human rights - our right to a family.
Complain - your partner gets abused more. If you dont believe me get
medical advice, he could have died friday with the
Elmley-Brighton-Elmey round trip on massively reduced medication. They
didn't even tell him where he was going so imagine the confusion
intended, the shock, the pain. Hes getting more and more frail.
so whats the point of having laws, PSI PSO if they are ignored anyway?
If this is true, then it has to stop!

In our society we send people to prison AS punishment, not FOR
punishment. The punishment is the deprevation of liberty, not basic
human rights. I don't feel it matters what a person may have been
convicted of, a prisoner may lose many privilages which become the gift
of the authorities but Human Rights are non negociable.

As regards his Morphine, could they not prescribe it in Patches?
Morphine patches only need changing every 48 hours, it would mean he
didn't have to move about so often and he could avoid painful
injections.

Perhaps you should contact a solicitor or your MP.

The following links may help. The first one will tell you who your MP
is and pdf contains general information on how your MP can help you.

Regards and Good luck!
http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/l/
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/m01.pdf
5th Horseman of the Apocalypse
2006-08-10 00:19:07 UTC
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P.S.

I've just thought, regarding the state of his health and the duration
of his imprisonment, couldn't he be released on licence or something.
I'm no expert on this sort of thing but it strikes me if he's been in
custody for so long he should have been considered for release long ago
- depending on the tarrif set at the time of sentence.

Surely his age and health, which makes him dependent on so many drugs
just to get through a day without pain, are strong factors to convince
the authorities that he has a minimum risk of re offending and is no
danger to the public.

As I said, sounds like you need a solicitor or your MP on board.

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