Prisoners rights

[Old Boy]

John Reid has agreed to pay £750,000 to 197 heroin users who were
denied methadone while in prison

It is, of course, unfair that the British taxpayer must once again fork
out for the failings of those whose salaries we pay. But the threat of
court action may yet help improve drug treatment in prisons which,
under a government proposal, is due to have its budget slashed by 60
per cent next year - even though nearly 39,000 prisoners remain
addicted.

More here
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=899

[GoNads]

Post by Old Boy
John Reid has agreed to pay £750,000 to 197 heroin users who were
denied methadone while in prison
It is, of course, unfair that the British taxpayer must once again fork
out for the failings of those whose salaries we pay. But the threat of
court action may yet help improve drug treatment in prisons which,
under a government proposal, is due to have its budget slashed by 60
per cent next year - even though nearly 39,000 prisoners remain
addicted.

Im surprised the cons didnt sue for being locked up all night.

[Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan]

Post by GoNads
Im surprised the cons didnt sue for being locked up all night.
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Employed by HMG as carer for my wife.
£46 per week for 24Hrs a day/7 Days a week/365days a year

Ignorant cunt. It's your wife not the goverments!

[GoNads]

On 15 Nov 2006 05:48:40 -0800, "Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan"

Post by Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan

Post by GoNads
Im surprised the cons didnt sue for being locked up all night.
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Employed by HMG as carer for my wife.
£46 per week for 24Hrs a day/7 Days a week/365days a year

Ignorant cunt. It's your wife not the goverments!

No, they pay me for caring for her, you ignorant cunt

[Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan]

You ask for compassion for your own circumstances yet attack
prisoners whose circumstances you don't know anything at all
about.

Many are in prison for reasons far beyond their control and the
fact they are on Methadone means they have actively sought medical
help for their problems which you and your ilk would deny them.

Rot in fucking hell you self righteous wanker

[GoNads]

On 15 Nov 2006 06:55:30 -0800, "Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan"

Post by Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan
You ask for compassion for your own circumstances yet attack
prisoners whose circumstances you don't know anything at all
about.

I asked for nothing, numbnuts.

Post by Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan
Many are in prison for reasons far beyond their control and the
fact they are on Methadone means they have actively sought medical
help for their problems which you and your ilk would deny them.

Oh sob sob stop it youll have me in tears.
They are on methadone as they are locked up which stops them from
breaking into peoples houses and stealing their hard earned
money/posessionsthen selling them to buy their drugs

Post by Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan
Rot in fucking hell you self righteous wanker

So youare an ignorant cunt then ?
I was right in my last post

[Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan]

Post by GoNads
They are on methadone as they are locked up which stops them from
breaking into peoples houses and stealing their hard earned
money/posessionsthen selling them to buy their drugs

While you are looking after your missus it keeps you away
from public toilets I suppose!

[GoNads]

On 15 Nov 2006 07:09:13 -0800, "Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan"

Post by Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan

Post by GoNads
They are on methadone as they are locked up which stops them from
breaking into peoples houses and stealing their hard earned
money/posessionsthen selling them to buy their drugs

While you are looking after your missus it keeps you away
from public toilets I suppose!

No not I, but as you seem to know so much about public toilets I bow
to your superior knowledge of them.
I suppose in your case it helps to have a little knowledge about
something and somewhere to spend your time.

[Mike_B]

Post by Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan

Post by GoNads
Im surprised the cons didnt sue for being locked up all night.
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Employed by HMG as carer for my wife.
£46 per week for 24Hrs a day/7 Days a week/365days a year

Ignorant cunt. It's your wife not the goverments!

Carers allowance isn't based on 24/7/365 either, no state benefit is
paid at an hourly rate. Also, to be getting his £46 carers allowance,
his wife has to be in receipt of Disability Living Allowance at at least
middle rate. It may be that she receives both care and mobility
component which is additional, non-means tested benefit.

[GoNads]

Post by Mike_B

Post by Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan

Post by GoNads
Im surprised the cons didnt sue for being locked up all night.
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Employed by HMG as carer for my wife.
£46 per week for 24Hrs a day/7 Days a week/365days a year

Ignorant cunt. It's your wife not the goverments!

Carers allowance isn't based on 24/7/365 either, no state benefit is
paid at an hourly rate.

But I am expected to care for her for £46 a week as they will not
provide a full time carer for her which she now needs
I had to give up a very well paid job to care for her

Post by Mike_B
Also, to be getting his £46 carers allowance,
his wife has to be in receipt of Disability Living Allowance at at least
middle rate. It may be that she receives both care and mobility
component which is additional, non-means tested benefit.

She does get that but I only get paid £46, Oh sorry plus my stamp.

[Mike_B]

Post by GoNads

Post by Mike_B

Post by Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan

Post by GoNads
Im surprised the cons didnt sue for being locked up all night.
--
Employed by HMG as carer for my wife.
£46 per week for 24Hrs a day/7 Days a week/365days a year

Ignorant cunt. It's your wife not the goverments!

Carers allowance isn't based on 24/7/365 either, no state benefit is
paid at an hourly rate.

But I am expected to care for her for £46 a week as they will not
provide a full time carer for her which she now needs
I had to give up a very well paid job to care for her

Post by Mike_B
Also, to be getting his £46 carers allowance,
his wife has to be in receipt of Disability Living Allowance at at least
middle rate. It may be that she receives both care and mobility
component which is additional, non-means tested benefit.

She does get that but I only get paid £46, Oh sorry plus my stamp.

Point is, you are NOT employed by HMG to care for your wife 24/7/265 at
£46 per week as your signature claims. You are not employed by them at
all.

You care for your wife because of the "in sickness and in health" thing
that you vowed. The carers allowance is there to assist you in that. You
are not paid for it. Your household income is the total of yours and
your wife's income and in a situation where you have chosen to give up
work to care for her then these cannot be separated.

If your wife needs 24/7 care and you are unable to provide it because
you want to go out and earn a living wage then your wife needs to speak
strongly with her medical team and social services to come up with a
care package.

[GoNads]

Post by Mike_B
Point is, you are NOT employed by HMG to care for your wife 24/7/265 at
£46 per week as your signature claims. You are not employed by them at
all.

Debatable point. They pay me they provide my stamp.

Post by Mike_B
You care for your wife because of the "in sickness and in health" thing
that you vowed. The carers allowance is there to assist you in that. You
are not paid for it. Your household income is the total of yours and
your wife's income and in a situation where you have chosen to give up
work to care for her then these cannot be separated.
If your wife needs 24/7 care and you are unable to provide it because
you want to go out and earn a living wage then your wife needs to speak
strongly with her medical team and social services to come up with a
care package.

We did, they said they could provide help for her for several hours,
twice a day which is totally insufficient for her needs.

By quitting my job to look after her we took a drop of around £200 a
week and gained around £70 a week all in.

[Mike_B]

Post by GoNads

Post by Mike_B
Point is, you are NOT employed by HMG to care for your wife 24/7/265 at
£46 per week as your signature claims. You are not employed by them at
all.

Debatable point. They pay me they provide my stamp.

Not debatable in any way shape or form. You do not become an employee of
HMG by claiming benefits from them.

Post by GoNads

Post by Mike_B
You care for your wife because of the "in sickness and in health" thing
that you vowed. The carers allowance is there to assist you in that. You
are not paid for it. Your household income is the total of yours and
your wife's income and in a situation where you have chosen to give up
work to care for her then these cannot be separated.
If your wife needs 24/7 care and you are unable to provide it because
you want to go out and earn a living wage then your wife needs to speak
strongly with her medical team and social services to come up with a
care package.

We did, they said they could provide help for her for several hours,
twice a day which is totally insufficient for her needs.
By quitting my job to look after her we took a drop of around £200 a
week and gained around £70 a week all in.

So the medical team told you they are unable to provide a care package
that meets her needs? Or did they suggest perhaps that the several hours
twice a day would meet her needs but you didn't agree with that?

If the former, go back, make noises, issue formal complaints. If the
latter.... again... its a matter of choice and vowing.

[Simon Dobson]

Post by GoNads
But I am expected to care for her for £46 a week as they will not
provide a full time carer for her which she now needs
I had to give up a very well paid job to care for her

I think this is where "in sickness and in health" comes in.

Post by GoNads

Post by Mike_B
Also, to be getting his £46 carers allowance,
his wife has to be in receipt of Disability Living Allowance at at least
middle rate. It may be that she receives both care and mobility
component which is additional, non-means tested benefit.

She does get that but I only get paid £46, Oh sorry plus my stamp.

Doesn't marriage mean you've committed to the lady, and therefore should
care for her free should she need it?

[Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan]

Post by Mike_B
Also, to be getting his £46 carers allowance,
his wife has to be in receipt of Disability Living Allowance at at least
middle rate.

He will be getting at least £200 (probably more) in DLA benefits
(probably plus Income Support) yet he objects to others being
helped with their medical needs. Chuck in the fact that he
is a raving racist... Fucking two faced wanker!

[Colin Wilson]

Post by GoNads
Employed by HMG as carer for my wife.
£46 per week for 24Hrs a day/7 Days a week/365days a year

I wonder if there should be some additional allowance for carers - the
payment you receive for looking after your wife falls well below what a
paid employee would get - even on minimum wage.

[Mike_B]

Post by Colin Wilson

Post by GoNads
Employed by HMG as carer for my wife.
£46 per week for 24Hrs a day/7 Days a week/365days a year

I wonder if there should be some additional allowance for carers - the
payment you receive for looking after your wife falls well below what a
paid employee would get - even on minimum wage.

I don't want to sound callous here, but the only reason he is the carer
is by a choice made because they are a committed couple. Nobody is
forcing him into it and if he chose not to then other arrangements would
need to be made. £46 is an allowance to assist those who choose this
course of action but is by no means the sole household income for the
couple. There is likely to be incapacity benefit/Income Support. If
income support then this could be at a higher level than standard rates
due to disability premiums and there is certainly Disability Living
Allowance, possibly at the high rate of both care and mobility
components. There could also be mortgage interest payments or housing
benefit and council tax benefit.

Someone in this situation is not a paid employee and they aren't
struggling to live on £46 per week.

[_ G O D _]

Post by Mike_B

Post by GoNads

Post by GoNads
Employed by HMG as carer for my wife.
£46 per week for 24Hrs a day/7 Days a

week/365days a year

Someone in this situation is not a paid employee
and they aren't struggling to live on £46 per week.

Shouldn't employee be paid a minimum wage, which
is about $300 for 40-hour week? But a 24/7-job even
at this rate will get you significantly high income, after
overtime, and vacation-time adds-up to a pay-check?

Something in the range of 70 to100K a year. Sounds
like a very good income for virtually non-working man.
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