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Labours record over the last ten years



Emasculated the BBC

Abolished mortgage tax relief

Abolished married mans tax allowance

In the first 8 years raised over 60 taxes even after promising to raise none
at all.

Damaged the freedom of the press

Broke manifesto promise about Student fees

Broke Manifesto promise about selling off school playing fields

Raised over 60 taxes whilst promising not to raise any

Demoralised the ARMY, FIRE SERVICE, POLICE, NURSES, DOCTORS, COUNCIL
WORKERS, TEACHERS, CIVIL SERVANTS, COUNCIL WORKERS & JOURNALISTS and now the
soldiers.

Caused civil servants to strike

Nearly caused the Police to go on strike

Nearly caused the police fire arms officers to refuse to carry guns

Started an unjust and illegal war in Iraq on the back of lying to the nation
about WMD.

Caused the unnecessary deaths of forces personal by not giving them the
protection they needed, not enough ammo, protection, medical supplies,
clothing, guns, boots, uniforms, etc

Drove the Fire Fighters to go on strike.

Caused the Police Service to try and gain the right to take industrial
action.

Screwed up Rail Privatisation .

Screwed up Railtrack.

Surrendered to the IRA . IRA still robbing banks, knee capping, extorting
etc

Give IRA leaders Ministerial positions as reward for killing British
soldiers.

Freeing IRA murderers after only serving 18 months.

Spitting on the memory of the 3000 victims of the IRA.

Sold off a third of the nations gold reserves under priced to support the
failing euro

Tried to give Gibraltar away against the wishes of the Brits and Gibraltans

Spend 40 billion extra on the NHS with no noticeable improvement in service

Allowed private finance hospitals be built that are not up to the job.

Allowed our soldiers to go to war with insufficient equipment after stating
to parliament and the nation that they were fully equipped to do the job.

Failed to deal with the Measles, Mumps and Rubella ( MMR) innoculation
crisis.

Let the social security budget go up by nearly 50 billion with no sign of
improvement in services.

Raised income tax, NI, Fuel tax's way above the rate of inflation.

Scrapping married couples tax allowance.

Let council tax bills go up by over 90% whilst inflation only came to 12% in
the same period.

Failed to raise pensions to cover the council tax rises thereby increasing
the poverty of our pensioners.

Forced pensioners to break the law to protest over the council tax

Caused the fuel lobby strike by grossly overtaxing the cost of petrol and
diesel .

Failed to check entry by hundreds of thousands of false asylum seekers

Did not deport the failed asylum seekers after applications to stay failed.

Failure to address race issues leading to northern race riots caused by the
extreme left SWP & ANL.

Refused to give the people a referendum over Europe and the euro

Let crime rates go up by more than 100% in 8 years ( the worst types still
rising)

Cut defence spending at one point so badly that warships could not afford
the fuel to go to sea

Encouraged the police service to concentrate on motorists not criminals

Caused the death of a government scientist.

Forced a wage settlement and contract change on Consultant doctors.

Flailed to deal with the repeat flooding problems affecting so many areas
due to global warming.

Failed to insure people trapped in high flood risk areas are either given
the right to insurance or given adequate protection from flooding

Blair promising to resign if crime was not reduced by Sept 02, then refusing
to go when the reduction failed to materialise.

Causing Chaos over the legality issues around Cannabis.

Screwing up the Student Grant system.

Letting illegal immigrants cost us 100 million on Aids Treatment.

Let asylum seekers costs exceed 1 billion pounds.

Putting someone in charge as children's minister who oversaw the blocking of
protective investigations into child abuse.

Letting London become the TB capital of the world.

Tried to close down Grammer and private schools to the public whilst
sending own kids to fee paying schools .

Letting the BSE disaster run totally out of control wrecking the farming and
tourism industries.

Oversaw the foot and mouth fiasco which saw the disease rampage across the
countryside destroying millions of animals and ruining thousands of
companies.

Tried to pass control of British military forces to the EU.

Letting thousands of service jobs go to Asia.

Allowed millions of pensioners to be left without full pensions because of
scheme windups.

Trying to create regional assemblies that will simply add another level of
taxation and burocracy to the state system.

Let old folks homes close due to lack of money only for funds to be found to
reopen the buildings for asylum seekers.

Let at least 2000 patients be turfed off a surgeries waiting list , then the
surgery reopening to serve only asylum seekers in Stockton on tees.

Wasted millions on the Millenium dome and its still costs £250,000 per month
to keep empty.

Crippled the buffering effect of the House of Lords by loading it in their
favour.

The peoples peers fantasy.

Allowed Scots MPs to vote on English Issues but not vice versa.

Giving priority under the law to asylum seekers with slight disabilities to
get priority over British nationals on the council house waiting list.

Causing the Child Support Agency fiasco where fathers were wrongly
persecuted and mother left with no money.

Causing the Air Traffic control privatisation fiasco.

Allowing building on Green belt areas.

Allowing building on Flood plains without adequate protection schemes then
refusing to help home owners who are flooded out.

Selling off school playing fields by the dozen after promising not to do so.

Building more motorways and by passes after promising to find alternative
green

options.

Not even trying to build any low cost public housing whilst letting the
building companies get away with building nothing but huge tracts of
executive housing.

Continuing with plans to build another million homes in the south east even
though the social infrastructure ( gas, water, schools, roads, power etc)
are already at maximum capacity.

David Blunkett admits to having an affair

Forcing ID cards onto the population that will have no effect on fighting
terrorism.

Causing the deaths of over 101 British servicemen in Iraq.

Fiddling election results by mass posting of rigged postal ballots

Triggered AQ attacks on the British public on 7/7

Fudged the Fox hunting ban.

Passed the ID card bill though its going to be grossly over budget and will
not prevent terrorism.

Issued an instruction to hospitals that they must treat and care for ALL
expectant mothers who arrive at their maternity units and not to pursue them
for money even if its clear they are just health tourists.

Presided over a near total collapse of the NHS dental service after trying
to force new working practises onto the dentists, which has caused thousands
of them to leave NHS practises which in turn now means millions of people do
not have access to dentists.

Decided to give 100 labour ministers brand new luxury limousines at a cost
of over 1 million pounds as a " security measure".

Mar 06 103 british troops dead in illegal war in Iraq.

Allowed hundreds of militant muslims to incite violence and hatred at a
rally London while prosecuting the BNP leader for speaking truthfully at a
private meeting.

Mar 06, 800 million NHS deficit announced, Dozens of NHS hospitals go into
the red many reports staff redundancies and cutting services.

Mar 06 the labour govt of the 60s was exposed today for sending materials to
Israel to help them make nuclear weapons, U235,Lithium 6 and 20 tons of
heavy water were given to Israel , this makes a mockery of labours anti
nuclear stance.

Mar 06 Labour was condemned audit commision for giving 6 million pounds to
pay workers wages at Rover as it collapsed.

Mar 06 In a return to Old labour ways a national strike of council workers
and civil servants brought misery to millions.

Mar 06 , it was announced this month that 50% of new labours much vaunted
of city academies are the worst schools in the UK.

New labour presides of the national embarrassment over the Wembley football
stadium which is over budget and now going to open a year late.

Sold honours for cash.

Over 8000 NHS redundancies thank to New labs mismanagement.



Poor labour laws have allowed Peugeot to close a UK factory throwing 2000
out of work.



April 06 Nurse cuts 'hit 50% of hospitals'
Nearly half of senior nurses have seen cuts in nursing posts in hospitals
in
the past year, a survey claims.
The Royal College of Nursing polled 660 nurses before their conference.
They
also said 13,000 NHS job losses have been announced in the last six
months.
John Prescott admits to having an affair or two



Govt finds multi million pound shortfall in MPS pensions, it simply dips
into tax payers money and tops it up for themselves.



Apr 06 NHS defecit is now likely to be 1.2 billion pounds



Apr 06 "

Police have siezed a quantity of Class C drugs in Defence Secretarys John
reids home.
He is quoted as saying " I have no idea where they came from"
police have said they are taking no further action
New labour have cut the amount of compensation payable to totally innocent
people who get wrongly convicted of criminal offences.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1222144,00.html
May 06 > Five illegal immigrants have been arrested after getting jobs in
the
Government department responsible for removing illegal immigrants from
the UK.
The five Nigerians were reportedly employed as cleaners in an office of
the Immigration and Nationality Directorate.
Commons Confidential: May 2006










Despatches from the House of Commons

1000 GMT, TUESDAY 23 MAY

Tory MPs are demanding a public apology from the Labour Party after it
emerged members, including ministers, took part in an auction for a copy of
the Hutton report into the death of Dr David Kelly which was autographed by
Cherie Blair.

According to a Commons motion tabled by Peterborough's Stewart Jackson, the
event took place at the Arts Club in Mayfair last week and raised £400 for
party coffers.

The motion says the event was "in appalling bad taste, arrogant and crassly
insensitive in seeking to make money, albeit indirectly, through hawking, as
a novelty item, an official Government report into the death of a public
servant".

It "regrets the distress caused to the family and friends of the late Dr
Kelly; and calls on the Labour Party to apologise for such tasteless and
offensive conduct and to donate the money raised to an appropriate charity".

May 06



700 escaped open jails last year Around 700 prisoners absconded from open
prisons last year, according to the head of the Prison Service.

Phil Wheatley made the disclosure as the Home office came under fire after a
raft of allegations about its work.

Tory David Davis says ministers "took their eye off the ball" after it
emerged 393 offenders had absconded from Leyhill open prison since 1999.

But Mr Wheatley says over three quarters of absconders will have been
rearrested and returned to custody.

'Risk' of open system

He said the rate of prisoner absconders was falling and was at its lowest
level since 1999. In 2005-6, 693 prisoners absconded, compared with 831 in
2004







Criminal records mix-up uncovered Some 2,700 people have been wrongly
labelled as criminals by the Criminal Records Bureau (CRB), it has emerged.

The mistakes have led to some people being turned down for jobs.

The Home Office said the errors arose when personal details were similar to
those of people with a conviction, but were "a tiny proportion of cases".

May 06

Murderers walk out of open prison More than 20 convicted murderers absconded
from Leyhill Open Prison near Bristol in the last five years, according to
new figures.

The information came to light after Yeovil MP David Laws tabled
parliamentary questions to Home Office minister Gerry Sutcliffe.

Six rapists were also among those who have absconded from Leyhill since
1999.

The figures follow a BBC investigation which showed more than 300 inmates
absconded in the past three years.

Mr Sutcliffe said: "As soon as a prisoner is found to have absconded from an
open prison the local police are informed immediately.





Labour Killed the 10 RAF crew
RAF pilots 'asked for tank foam'
The deaths of 10 UK personnel in Iraq in January 2005 could have been
avoided if a safety device was fitted to their Hercules plane, the BBC
has
learned.
RAF pilots requested that explosive- suppressant foam devices be fitted
to
fuel tanks two years before the attack in which the men died, RAF papers
show.
The Ministry of Defence said none of its planes in Iraq or Afghanistan
have the foam, but some will be fitted soon.
The foam has been in use in US Hercules aircraft since the Vietnam war.
Foreign criminals escape removal.

Charles Clarke has apologised for the release of more than 1,000 foreign
prisoners who should have been deported at the end of their sentence.

The number includes three murderers and nine rapists, Home Office figures
show.

Mr Clarke said he could not say "hand on heart" that they would all be
tracked down, "but we are working on that very energetically".

He said the failure was "deeply regrettable" and conceded that people will
be angered by the oversight.

The home secretary said the prisoners, who were released between February
1999 and March 2006, should have been considered for deportation or removal.

So far the Immigration and Nationality Directorate (IND) has located 107 of
the total, leading to 20 deportations.









The Sunday Times March 12, 2006
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2081801,00.html
Blair gave 'honours for loans'
Jon Ungoed-Thomas and Robert Winnett
A MILLIONAIRE businessman has lifted the lid on how Labour is
concealing money given by wealthy backers who are then nominated for
peerages.
Labour has raised up to £10m from donors but has hidden the payments
because they were made as loans, which do not have to be declared.
Three of the donors were put forward for peerages by Tony Blair last
autumn.

Mar 06 BBC News unemployed number up by 37,000 taking the number on JCS to
over 1.5 million, add to those the nearly 2 ,million on incapacity benefits,
asylum seekers, illegal immigrants and health tourists.

Subject: Labour's Transport Failure
'I will have failed," John Prescott told us upon taking office in 1997,
"if
in five years time there are not many more people using public transport
and
far fewer journeys by car." Having missed his target by some margin - car
usage rose sharply between then and 2002 - Mr Prescott somehow forgot to
admit to his self-defined failure and resign. In fact, the Government has
learned nothing, in that it is still setting targets that will leave it
looking foolish in just a few years from now.
Several times since 2000, the Government has committed itself to
increasing
usage of the railways - as measured in passenger-miles - by 50 per cent in
10 years. If this target were to be achieved, few passengers would be
minded
to sing the praises of the Deputy Prime Minister. They would do well even
to
gasp, such will be the overcrowding. As we report today, the Office of
Rail
Regulation revealed last month that there won't be any more trains to
carry
the extra passengers: rail capacity is likely to increase by a mere 2 per
cent between now and 2014.
Yet another stunning new labour failure

Poverty rate 'rose under Labour' Relative poverty in the UK may have risen
since 1997, rather than fallen, says the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

The usual measure is the proportion of households whose income is less than
60% of the median household income.

That suggests that the poverty rate fell from 25% to 22% of households
between 1996/97 and 2002/03.

But the IFS says that if household spending is measured instead, then over
the same period of time the poverty rate rose from 20% to 22%.

Using spending as a measure, the IFS also finds that the poverty rate among
children increased
Timeline of health service jobs cuts
Hospital job cuts that will run into more than 7,000 have been announced
in
recent weeks as the NHS struggles to balance the books.
13 April
Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust to shed up to 800 jobs at
its three Birmingham and Black Country sites. The trust, which runs City,
Sandwell and Rowley Regis hospitals, has a deficit of £6m, but said it
plans
to save £20m in the next year.
11 April
The West Hertfordshire Hospitals NHS Trust said up to 500 jobs would have
to
go in the next 12 to 18 months to help tackle debts of £28.6m.
The trust said it would cut back on temporary staff - reducing the number
of
permanent staff affected.
7 April
York Hospital is to cut 200 jobs in a move to save £2.5m. The savings from
jobs are part of a wider £7m cost-cutting package.
6 April
The Worcestershire Acute Hospitals NHS Trust announces 720 losses. It
needs
to save £30m.
5 April
The Royal United Hospital NHS Trust in Bath announces that 300 jobs are to
go.
4 April
Surrey and Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust, which manages Crawley Hospital and
East Surrey Hospital, announces 400 jobs cuts as it tries to reduce a £2m
a
month overspend and a total debt of £41.2m.
3 April
Up to 160 jobs to go at the Medway Maritime Hospital in Gillingham, Kent,
the trust confirms. It needs to save £11m in 2006-07 and claw back a £1m
overspend from last year.
29 March
Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust announces plans to cut
325 posts to save £10m.
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital NHS Trust in Woolwich says up to 100 jobs
could
go to save £10m.
Mid Staffordshire General Hospitals NHS Trust plans to cut more than 150
jobs, to save £10m next year.
28 March
Gloucestershire Health NHS Community confirms plans to close an 86-bed
hospital and says jobs may also go.
27 March
The Norwich and Norfolk University Hospital says it will need to make cuts
to address a £22m shortfall.
24 March
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust says 74 jobs including 21 specialist
specialist nursing jobs are "at risk".
23 March
East Kent Hospitals Trust gives warning of possible cuts to claw back a
£35m
deficit.
County Durham and Darlington Acute Hospitals NHS Trust announces up to 700
job cuts over the next three years.
22 March
Queen Mary's, Sidcup, south-east London says it will consult over the loss
of 190 jobs.
The Royal Free Hospital, north-west London, announces 480 posts and 100
beds
cut to save £25m and reduce a £13m deficit.
20 March
Plymouth Hospitals NHS Trust announces around 200 job cuts to make savings
of £22m.
About 300 job losses are announced at Shropshire's two main hospitals, the
Princess Royal Hospital and Royal Shrewsbury Hospital.
Health chiefs announce 300 job cuts in Wolverhampton to claw back a £38m
deficit.
16 March
Up to 1,000 jobs to go at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire
NHS
Trust, Stoke-on-Trent, with up to 750 compulsory redundancies.
13 March
Peterborough and Stamford Hospitals NHS Trust will lose 185 jobs and plans
to shut an operating theatre to save £2m.
10 March
The United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust, which has £17.5m debt, says
there will be major job losses.
8 March
Royal Cornwall Hospitals Trust, which is facing an £8.1m shortfall,
announces it is set to cut 300 staff.
Surrey and Sussex Strategic Health Authority says it is expecting an £83m
deficit.
1 March
Selby and York Primary Care Trust announces jobs will have to go as part
of
a plan to tackle debts of £23.7m.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/health/4887170.stm
Published: 2006/04/13 13:46:09 GMT
© BBC MMVI
Migrants wrongly get tax credits Thousands of immigrants have received tax
credits they were not entitled to, BBC News has learned.

Officials decided they did not need to prove they were eligible. All they
needed to make a claim was a national insurance (NI) number.

But on 1 June it emerged that thousands of workers suspected of being
illegal immigrants were given NI numbers.

Between April 2003 and December 2004, 2,700 families were wrongly paid
credits by the Inland Revenue.

The credits each could have been worth more than £10,000 in some cases.

Overpayments to families have averaged £1,000 a year so if all the 2,700
families had claimed for the whole of this time it would amount to millions.

"Greg Preston" ***@virus.co.uk> wrote in message news:***@bt.com...> The asset recovery unit set up by
blair in 2003to sieze the assets of criminals, £60 million to set up , £8
Million recovered, what a joke they
are.
June 19

UK budget deficit hits new record The UK has posted a record budget deficit
for the public sector in May.

The May current deficit was £8.7bn, £1bn higher than a year ago, the Office
for National Statistics (ONS) said.

Public Sector Net Borrowing (PSNB) - which includes capital investment -
showed a deficit of £10bn, the second highest figure on record.

Rising government spending was mainly responsible, the ONS said, although
lower corporate tax receipts also contributed.

Another measure of public borrowing, the public sector net cash requirement,
reached £7.4bn, £2.3bn higher than one year ago, and the highest for May on
record.



June 20th, New Labours much vaunted NHS computer system is now 2 years late
and instead of the 2 billion cost forecast by the Blairites its actually now
passing 12 billion and rising, at least they are consistent with their
screwing up and over expenditure on the passport system and air traffic
control system with the ID card system set to follow suite


Not to mention the dodgy dealings of Keith Vaz, Peter Mandelson , Geofrey
Robertson , Dianne Abbot, Margaret Hodge, John Prescott and Tony Blair etc
over sending there kids to private schools, smuggling immigrants, dodgy
house deals. mortgage fraud, lying to parliament. selling off British steel
etc

These are a few of the benefits of voting for Nu Labour, Britain truly has
exactly the type of government it deserves. I hope we get at least another 8
years of this govt the country deserves nothing less.



The Labour govt's desperate attempts to make the CSA work for the benefits
of the parents and children has failed again ( nothing new there for labour
then) when the CSA systems just about collapsed just over a year ago , the
morons of New labour said they could fix it ( like the NHS by pouring money
into it) They gave the CSA another 539 million pounds which apart from
creating even more civil service jobs has not helped the needy parents at
all. Yup 539 million pound with no improvement in service. BBC and Sky news
June 30 2006



July 06 Labour govt does U turn on forced amalgamations of police forces,
even though only 2 weeks prior they insisted there would never be a U turn.



July 06 Labour now says ID card scheme may be downgraded but the costs stay
the same.



July 06 John Prescott formally rebuked for his relationship with a rich
american businessman who was tendering for contracts with the UK govt.



July 06 the Home Sec admitted that it had grossly underestimated the amount
of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers remaining in the UK, Estimates now
exceed 480,000 where as New labour only a few short weeks ago insisted it
was less than 200,000



July 06 new labour does yet another 180 degree turn this time on the "
compulsory house buyers information and survey package.



August 06 After New labour and its supporters accused anyone who expressed
concerns about unchecked mass migrations from the Baltic states as
unfounded, racists, and untrue. Stating that no more than 15,000 Poles,
Latvians etc would come to the UK. It was announced today that 600,000 had
arrived in one year with 40,000 Poles arriving in the last 3 months causing
a huge over burden and strain on public services.



Aug 2006 New Labour scrap a computer system as unworkable, for paying
benefits out after wasting £150 million pounds on the system.



Sept 19 2006

After New Labour spent 50 million pounds on an anti truancy campaign it was
revealed today that truancy numbers had risen by 40% to over 50,000 children
a day staying away from school illegally.



9 November Sky News



It was announced today that the British armed forces moral was at an all
time low with over 10,000 troops leaving the services each year, poor kit,
bad wages, fear of prosecution, and over deployment were all cited as
reasons for this. It was also announced that the National audit office
says the forces are grossly over commited and very understaffed and
resourced.



March 07

140 British dead in Blairs illegal war

The RN totally humiliated because of the governments handly of the hostage
crisis where 15 sailors were captured by Iran



Public sector workers such as cops, nurses, firemen etc can not afford to by
a home in

Seven out of ten towns in the UK



School truancy rates are at an all time record high, even after Labours 50
million pound campaign to fight it

Violent attacks against Teachers , firemen and NHS staff is at an all time
high



Council tax has risen over 90% since Labour came to power

Violent crime has risen over 60%

Gun crime over 120%

Over 1,000,000 illegal immigrants and failed asylum seekers are living in
the Uk at the tax payers expense.





And don't forget folks
its never the labourites fault.
--
Work Harder, Millions on benefits needs your taxes.


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Jones
2007-04-16 15:43:06 UTC
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"VAN DIESEL" <***@liberty.com> wrote in message news:***@bt.com...
BNP's record over the last 12 months?

Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.

Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 16:00:22 UTC
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Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Because apart from taking billions and billions of pounds of the British
people with dozens of tax rises, New Labour has achieved nothing in ten long
years. Statrted illegal wars, lied to parliament, ruined the NHS and
betrayed the workers, only this morning the royal college of nusrsing says
this government has just slapped the health workers across the face. Give
the BNP a chance, its certainly go to be better than what we have now,
besides the BNP politicians are more honest and decent than any labour
politician.
Jones
2007-04-16 16:10:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Because apart from taking billions and billions of pounds of the British
people with dozens of tax rises, New Labour has achieved nothing in ten
long years. Statrted illegal wars, lied to parliament, ruined the NHS and
betrayed the workers, only this morning the royal college of nusrsing says
this government has just slapped the health workers across the face. Give
the BNP a chance, its certainly go to be better than what we have now,
besides the BNP politicians are more honest and decent than any labour
politician.
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.

But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting for
them.

There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for British
citizens.
bob estes
2007-04-16 16:16:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Because apart from taking billions and billions of pounds of the British
people with dozens of tax rises, New Labour has achieved nothing in ten
long years. Statrted illegal wars, lied to parliament, ruined the NHS and
betrayed the workers, only this morning the royal college of nusrsing
says this government has just slapped the health workers across the face.
Give the BNP a chance, its certainly go to be better than what we have
now, besides the BNP politicians are more honest and decent than any
labour politician.
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.
But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting for
them.
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
Its simpletons like you that forecast 'Race Riots' and 'Concentration
Camps' being built if The BNP got councillors elected......Another
hysterical Tart
Jones
2007-04-16 16:26:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by bob estes
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Because apart from taking billions and billions of pounds of the British
people with dozens of tax rises, New Labour has achieved nothing in ten
long years. Statrted illegal wars, lied to parliament, ruined the NHS
and betrayed the workers, only this morning the royal college of
nusrsing says this government has just slapped the health workers across
the face. Give the BNP a chance, its certainly go to be better than what
we have now, besides the BNP politicians are more honest and decent than
any labour politician.
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.
But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting for
them.
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
Its simpletons like you that forecast 'Race Riots' and 'Concentration
Camps' being built if The BNP got councillors elected......Another
hysterical Tart
Hello Bob,
Now remember it was you that brought "Concentration camps" and " Race riots"
into this conversation, not me.

I was talking about a two tier system whereby British citizens would be
treated differently when it came to schooling , housing ,etc, depending on
their ancestry.

Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
bob estes
2007-04-16 16:40:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Post by bob estes
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Because apart from taking billions and billions of pounds of the
British people with dozens of tax rises, New Labour has achieved
nothing in ten long years. Statrted illegal wars, lied to parliament,
ruined the NHS and betrayed the workers, only this morning the royal
college of nusrsing says this government has just slapped the health
workers across the face. Give the BNP a chance, its certainly go to be
better than what we have now, besides the BNP politicians are more
honest and decent than any labour politician.
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.
But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting
for them.
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
Its simpletons like you that forecast 'Race Riots' and 'Concentration
Camps' being built if The BNP got councillors elected......Another
hysterical Tart
Hello Bob,
Now remember it was you that brought "Concentration camps" and " Race
riots" into this conversation, not me.
I was talking about a two tier system whereby British citizens would be
treated differently when it came to schooling , housing ,etc, depending on
their ancestry.
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
No this is typical loonie left propaganda aimed at The BNP which is quite
frankly disgusting. Just like that Liberal hysterical twit the other day in
Liverpool. "Oh my god The BNP are standing in Liverpool, what chance have i
got ? I'm Liberal, gay and Jewish..I will be gassed" What a complete
arsehole

Yes they would treat all British Citizens the same. Unlike OPWTN who just
treat minorities and there self of course
Jones
2007-04-16 16:45:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by bob estes
Post by Jones
Post by bob estes
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Because apart from taking billions and billions of pounds of the
British people with dozens of tax rises, New Labour has achieved
nothing in ten long years. Statrted illegal wars, lied to parliament,
ruined the NHS and betrayed the workers, only this morning the royal
college of nusrsing says this government has just slapped the health
workers across the face. Give the BNP a chance, its certainly go to be
better than what we have now, besides the BNP politicians are more
honest and decent than any labour politician.
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.
But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting
for them.
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
Its simpletons like you that forecast 'Race Riots' and 'Concentration
Camps' being built if The BNP got councillors elected......Another
hysterical Tart
Hello Bob,
Now remember it was you that brought "Concentration camps" and " Race
riots" into this conversation, not me.
I was talking about a two tier system whereby British citizens would be
treated differently when it came to schooling , housing ,etc, depending
on their ancestry.
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
No this is typical loonie left propaganda aimed at The BNP which is
quite frankly disgusting. Just like that Liberal hysterical twit the other
day in Liverpool. "Oh my god The BNP are standing in Liverpool, what
chance have i got ? I'm Liberal, gay and Jewish..I will be gassed" What a
complete arsehole
So far Bob , you have introduced Concentration camps, race riots and
Gassings into the conversation.

Are you trying to tell us some-thing about the BNP.
Post by bob estes
Yes they would treat all British Citizens the same. Unlike OPWTN who just
treat minorities and there self of course
You have missed the part in the 2005 manifesto that says indigenous ( By BNP
definition " Brits will be given priority on housing , schooling , etc, then
?

If some are getting priority, then it follows that others do not, And so: A
two tier system for British citizens based on ancestry .
bob estes
2007-04-16 16:52:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Are you trying to tell us some-thing about the BNP.
So you believe all that Left Wing tripe then..How Gullable
Dont go talking too loud you'll start a landslide...Mr Jones
Jones
2007-04-16 16:57:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by bob estes
Post by Jones
Are you trying to tell us some-thing about the BNP.
So you believe all that Left Wing tripe then..How Gullable
Dont go talking too loud you'll start a landslide...Mr Jones
What are you trying to tell us now?
Chris X
2007-04-16 18:39:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Post by bob estes
Post by Jones
Are you trying to tell us some-thing about the BNP.
So you believe all that Left Wing tripe then..How Gullable
Dont go talking too loud you'll start a landslide...Mr Jones
What are you trying to tell us now?
That screaming globalist losers like you benefit our cause quite well, even
though you don't realise it :)
Chris X
2007-04-16 18:38:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Post by bob estes
Post by Jones
Post by bob estes
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Because apart from taking billions and billions of pounds of the
British people with dozens of tax rises, New Labour has achieved
nothing in ten long years. Statrted illegal wars, lied to parliament,
ruined the NHS and betrayed the workers, only this morning the royal
college of nusrsing says this government has just slapped the health
workers across the face. Give the BNP a chance, its certainly go to
be better than what we have now, besides the BNP politicians are more
honest and decent than any labour politician.
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.
But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting
for them.
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
Its simpletons like you that forecast 'Race Riots' and 'Concentration
Camps' being built if The BNP got councillors elected......Another
hysterical Tart
Hello Bob,
Now remember it was you that brought "Concentration camps" and " Race
riots" into this conversation, not me.
I was talking about a two tier system whereby British citizens would be
treated differently when it came to schooling , housing ,etc, depending
on their ancestry.
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
No this is typical loonie left propaganda aimed at The BNP which is
quite frankly disgusting. Just like that Liberal hysterical twit the
other day in Liverpool. "Oh my god The BNP are standing in Liverpool,
what chance have i got ? I'm Liberal, gay and Jewish..I will be gassed"
What a complete arsehole
So far Bob , you have introduced Concentration camps, race riots and
Gassings into the conversation.
Are you trying to tell us some-thing about the BNP.
He's merely highlighting the way certain old globalist drama queens get
over-excited at the mention of British nationalism. You know how it is
simpleton, I'm sure ...
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 16:55:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
Scottish student dont pay uni fees, English and welsh do
Scotish pensioners are guraenteed free places in council care, the english
have to pay
Welsh and scots get access to much better cancer drugs than the English
Scotland gets more Per person in state subsidies than england and wales
Scotland and wales have their own form of Parliaments, England is denied
those same rights
Jones
2007-04-16 17:01:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
Scottish student dont pay uni fees, English and welsh do
Scotish pensioners are guraenteed free places in council care, the english
have to pay
Welsh and scots get access to much better cancer drugs than the English
Scotland gets more Per person in state subsidies than england and wales
Scotland and wales have their own form of Parliaments, England is denied
those same rights
You avoid the question!

Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same ?
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 17:13:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
Scottish student dont pay uni fees, English and welsh do
Scotish pensioners are guraenteed free places in council care, the
english have to pay
Welsh and scots get access to much better cancer drugs than the English
Scotland gets more Per person in state subsidies than england and wales
Scotland and wales have their own form of Parliaments, England is denied
those same rights
You avoid the question!
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same ?
Who knows none of the other parties ever did, But if they only stopped the
unchecked mass migration and kicked out the failed asylum seekers it would
be a huge step in the right direction. The tories pandered only to the rich
in society, the Labourites cared more about Moscow than anything at one
time, There are so many Labourites and other lefties who despise democracy
and freedom of speach its scary. The Lib dems only have three policies,
Raise taxes, Take us further into the EU and make homosexuality compulsory
for all :o). I think the BNP would quickly learn the softest road to follow
would be to give wales and scotland total home rule, get us out of the EU
and back into the EEC and would get rid of the millions of chancers, illegal
immigrants, health tourists and unwanted asylum seekers ( do remember that
very many of the illegals are white as well as various colours so their is
no prejudice there) . Then hopefully they wouild restore the balance of
power to a more level playing field for all religions, Prod, Catholic,
Baptist, Jew, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu, and rasta etc instead of the unfaire bias
in favour of extreme Islam.
Jones
2007-04-16 17:14:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
Scottish student dont pay uni fees, English and welsh do
Scotish pensioners are guraenteed free places in council care, the
english have to pay
Welsh and scots get access to much better cancer drugs than the English
Scotland gets more Per person in state subsidies than england and wales
Scotland and wales have their own form of Parliaments, England is denied
those same rights
You avoid the question!
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same ?
Who knows none of the other parties ever did,
<Snip rant >

The question was about the BNPs plans, no-one elses.

Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 17:26:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
Scottish student dont pay uni fees, English and welsh do
Scotish pensioners are guraenteed free places in council care, the
english have to pay
Welsh and scots get access to much better cancer drugs than the English
Scotland gets more Per person in state subsidies than england and wales
Scotland and wales have their own form of Parliaments, England is
denied those same rights
You avoid the question!
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same ?
Who knows none of the other parties ever did,
<Snip rant >
The question was about the BNPs plans, no-one elses.
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
I dont know, probably they would wisely favour the Brits over the illegals.
Jones
2007-04-16 17:33:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
Scottish student dont pay uni fees, English and welsh do
Scotish pensioners are guraenteed free places in council care, the
english have to pay
Welsh and scots get access to much better cancer drugs than the English
Scotland gets more Per person in state subsidies than england and wales
Scotland and wales have their own form of Parliaments, England is
denied those same rights
You avoid the question!
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same ?
Who knows none of the other parties ever did,
<Snip rant >
The question was about the BNPs plans, no-one elses.
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
I dont know, probably they would wisely favour the Brits over the illegals.
Again you evade the question!

No one is talking about illegal.

Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 17:55:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
Scottish student dont pay uni fees, English and welsh do
Scotish pensioners are guraenteed free places in council care, the
english have to pay
Welsh and scots get access to much better cancer drugs than the English
Scotland gets more Per person in state subsidies than england and wales
Scotland and wales have their own form of Parliaments, England is
denied those same rights
You avoid the question!
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same ?
Who knows none of the other parties ever did,
<Snip rant >
The question was about the BNPs plans, no-one elses.
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
I dont know, probably they would wisely favour the Brits over the illegals.
Again you evade the question!
No one is talking about illegal.
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
I dont know, we will have to let them try first.
Jones
2007-04-16 19:15:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
Scottish student dont pay uni fees, English and welsh do
Scotish pensioners are guraenteed free places in council care, the
english have to pay
Welsh and scots get access to much better cancer drugs than the English
Scotland gets more Per person in state subsidies than england and wales
Scotland and wales have their own form of Parliaments, England is
denied those same rights
You avoid the question!
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same ?
Who knows none of the other parties ever did,
<Snip rant >
The question was about the BNPs plans, no-one elses.
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
I dont know, probably they would wisely favour the Brits over the illegals.
Again you evade the question!
No one is talking about illegal.
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
I dont know, we will have to let them try first.
Not an easy question for you lot is it ? ;-)
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 19:28:43 UTC
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--
Captilalism Is The Unequal Sharing Of Wealth
Socialism Is the Equal Sharing Of Misery.
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Are you saying that they would treat all British citizens the same ?
Scottish student dont pay uni fees, English and welsh do
Scotish pensioners are guraenteed free places in council care, the
english have to pay
Welsh and scots get access to much better cancer drugs than the English
Scotland gets more Per person in state subsidies than england and wales
Scotland and wales have their own form of Parliaments, England is
denied those same rights
You avoid the question!
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same ?
Who knows none of the other parties ever did,
<Snip rant >
The question was about the BNPs plans, no-one elses.
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
I dont know, probably they would wisely favour the Brits over the illegals.
Again you evade the question!
No one is talking about illegal.
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
I dont know, we will have to let them try first.
Not an easy question for you lot is it ? ;-)
There are not my lot, I hope a certain Mr Reg Keyes stands again in this
constituancy, I voted for him last time , His policy is pure anti Blair/
anti Labour, he is a man of impecable honour and integrity , His son died in
Iraq , one of the 6 redcaps who died in Blairs illegal wars because they
were given not enough ammo, defective radios and no back up. I have only
one fantasy in politics and that is to see the Blair govt standing trial in
the Hague, and all labour party members rightly being viewed by society with
the same distain as the baathist party in saddams Iraq.
a***@hotmail.co.uk
2007-04-22 19:55:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Again you evade the question!
Would the BNP treat all British citizens the same , or not ?
The Labour Party would love to treat all British citizens the
same way they treat the British citizen Ian Huntley.

VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 16:52:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by bob estes
Post by Jones
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
Its simpletons like you that forecast 'Race Riots' and 'Concentration
Camps' being built if The BNP got councillors elected......Another
hysterical Tart
Yet its a simple fact that the race riots in North Yorks a few years ago
were incited by the Labourites, socialist and anti Nazi league, i remember a
senior officer from west yorks police condemning the UAF/ANL/SWP for
inciting the riots by tewlling the asian community untruthfuly that the BNP
were going to march through halifax and bradford, the BNP new nothing about
it.

It was a similar tale when the BNP decided to have a private rally on a
field somewhere in yorkshire, The police told the ANL/SWP/UAF types in no
uncertain terms that they must not gather outside the rally and cause
trouble, So they did and caused all sorts of public disorder.
it was also those same left wingers who tried to stop and dirupt the ballot
count and one of the counting stations, they threw stones and bottles at
ordinary members of the public trying to enter the counting station, that
was on tv for all to see.
bob estes
2007-04-16 16:54:41 UTC
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Post by bob estes
Post by Jones
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
Its simpletons like you that forecast 'Race Riots' and 'Concentration
Camps' being built if The BNP got councillors elected......Another
hysterical Tart
Yet its a simple fact that the race riots in North Yorks a few years ago
were incited by the Labourites, socialist and anti Nazi league, i remember
a senior officer from west yorks police condemning the UAF/ANL/SWP for
inciting the riots by tewlling the asian community untruthfuly that the
BNP were going to march through halifax and bradford, the BNP new nothing
about it.
It was a similar tale when the BNP decided to have a private rally on a
field somewhere in yorkshire, The police told the ANL/SWP/UAF types in no
uncertain terms that they must not gather outside the rally and cause
trouble, So they did and caused all sorts of public disorder.
it was also those same left wingers who tried to stop and dirupt the
ballot count and one of the counting stations, they threw stones and
bottles at ordinary members of the public trying to enter the counting
station, that
The Leftie do-gooders dont acknowledge that...Its called selective viewing
;)
Post by VAN DIESEL
was on tv for all to see.
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 16:23:38 UTC
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Post by Jones
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.
But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting for
them.
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
But sir, New Labour already allows discrimination against English NHS
patients, English students, English elderly seeking residential care. New
Labour have how desrimination against people in london by allowing Muslim
only homes to be built, It allows Irish travellors to get away with crimes
and anti social behaviour that English tax payers get prosecuted for, It
descriminates against poor homeless English families waiting for council
homes, In Middlesbrough for example it was shown in the gazette that local
homeless families were refused homes even though the authorities had plenty
of empty properties, after investigation it turned out the Labour govt had
ordered the empty house to be held for asylum seekers.It discriminates
against British people who claims state benefits but are refused because
they chose to live off their savings for more than two years, but allow
benefit payments to illegal immigrants and aylum seekers. It descriminates
against the English by giving the welsh and scots itheir own parliaments but
denies the English a parliament. There is so much anti english
discrimination it is obscene. Thats why decent people are turning away
from the far and centre left.
Jones
2007-04-16 16:28:32 UTC
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Post by Jones
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.
But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting for
them.
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
But sir, New Labour already allows discrimination against English
< Snip rant >

I do not agree with any discrimination , positive or otherwise.
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 16:57:06 UTC
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Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.
But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting
for them.
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
But sir, New Labour already allows discrimination against English
< Snip rant >
I do not agree with any discrimination , positive or otherwise.
We in that case your vote will be wasted because they all discriminate in
one form or another, to me the least offensive is the one that will put
the needs and wishes of the British people first. That is never going to
be Lib, Lab or con.
Jones
2007-04-16 17:02:39 UTC
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Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.
But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting
for them.
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
But sir, New Labour already allows discrimination against English
< Snip rant >
I do not agree with any discrimination , positive or otherwise.
We in that case your vote will be wasted because they all discriminate in
one form or another, to me the least offensive is the one that will put
the needs and wishes of the British people first. That is never going to
be Lib, Lab or con.
Who's that then "Van"
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 17:14:48 UTC
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Post by Jones
Post by Jones
Post by VAN DIESEL
Post by Jones
Yep the BNP do have the odd policy that I can see the reasoning behind.
But I have a problem with a party that intends to treat its citizens
differently based on their ancestry, and so can not see myself voting
for them.
There will be many like myself who do not want a two tier system for
British citizens.
But sir, New Labour already allows discrimination against English
< Snip rant >
I do not agree with any discrimination , positive or otherwise.
We in that case your vote will be wasted because they all discriminate
in one form or another, to me the least offensive is the one that will
put the needs and wishes of the British people first. That is never
going to be Lib, Lab or con.
Who's that then "Van"
dunno but it dreffo not Labour or the tories and the lib dems are a joke, so
you appear to be fairly aswitched on look at whats on offer where you live
and take your choice, Mines looking very much like UKIP at the Mo.
jb
2007-04-16 16:53:07 UTC
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Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Have you changed your nappy today?
I only arsk because you wear continence pants,allegedly:-))
Jones
2007-04-16 16:58:38 UTC
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Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Have you changed your nappy today?
I only arsk because you wear continence pants,allegedly:-))
Why is that Right wing sympathisers have to have a go personally?

I'll continue to talk about the BNPs lack of action in the council chamber.
What have they ever done?
bob estes
2007-04-16 17:01:05 UTC
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Post by Jones
Post by jb
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Have you changed your nappy today?
I only arsk because you wear continence pants,allegedly:-))
Why is that Right wing sympathisers have to have a go personally?
I'll continue to talk about the BNPs lack of action in the council
chamber. What have they ever done?
Not enough councillors yet to make a impact.
More to the point, what have the LIBLABCON done?
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 17:04:41 UTC
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Post by Jones
Post by jb
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Have you changed your nappy today?
I only arsk because you wear continence pants,allegedly:-))
Why is that Right wing sympathisers have to have a go personally?
I'll continue to talk about the BNPs lack of action in the council
chamber. What have they ever done?
Far less damage than labour has.
Jones
2007-04-16 17:07:32 UTC
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Post by Jones
Post by jb
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Have you changed your nappy today?
I only arsk because you wear continence pants,allegedly:-))
Why is that Right wing sympathisers have to have a go personally?
I'll continue to talk about the BNPs lack of action in the council
chamber. What have they ever done?
Far less damage than labour has.
They have done nothing! The BNP have achieved nothing. It's very easy not to
make any mistakes when you are doing nothing at all!

If I had voted for a BNP councillor making all these promises about housing
, jobs for Brits , etc, etc, I'd be well pissed off at the whole lot of them
not being able to achieve anything at all!
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 17:27:54 UTC
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Post by Jones
They have done nothing! The BNP have achieved nothing. It's very easy not
to make any mistakes when you are doing nothing at all!
Its not easy for single or pairs of lowly councillors to achieve anything
when the ruling labour dominated council refuses to even speak with them,
or heckles them in meetings, If the BNP folks dont achieve much its because
the ruling labourites so hate democracy they block it.
jb
2007-04-16 17:05:56 UTC
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Post by Jones
Post by jb
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Have you changed your nappy today?
I only arsk because you wear continence pants,allegedly:-))
Why is that Right wing sympathisers have to have a go personally?
Because it winds you up:-))
Post by Jones
I'll continue to talk about the BNPs lack of action in the council chamber.
What have they ever done?
Give them time, it'll take time to get established.
First they'll demolish your street of houses and build a dam at the end of
the valley.
Then you can write a best seller entitled,"How wet was my valley before it
filled with sheep piss"
NOHTHHAND
Jones
2007-04-16 17:09:34 UTC
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Post by jb
Post by Jones
Post by jb
Post by Jones
BNP's record over the last 12 months?
Nothing
Zip.
Zero.
They have changed / affected nothing.
Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
Have you changed your nappy today?
I only arsk because you wear continence pants,allegedly:-))
Why is that Right wing sympathisers have to have a go personally?
Because it winds you up:-))
Post by Jones
I'll continue to talk about the BNPs lack of action in the council
chamber.
Post by Jones
What have they ever done?
Give them time, it'll take time to get established.
First they'll demolish your street of houses and build a dam at the end of
the valley.
I must remember that one next time they knock my door!
Post by jb
Then you can write a best seller entitled,"How wet was my valley before it
filled with sheep piss"
Oh my, a sheep joke, how grown up!
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 17:18:44 UTC
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Post by Jones
Why is that Right wing sympathisers have to have a go personally?
I'll continue to talk about the BNPs lack of action in the council
chamber. What have they ever done?
Gained more and more seats than the labourites on this forum of old said
they would get, I remember back around 2002 ish the loony lefties saying
the BNP would never ever get more than 2 or 3 councillors, Then they also
said only extreme racist minority would vote BNP , they kept saying that
until those two or three places in Yorkshire elected them with large
majorities. the Labourites went awefully quiet when we aked them if the
entire population of these two estates were all racist bigots, including the
two sikh families who vote BNP because of their fear of Extreme Islam.
abelard
2007-04-16 17:48:19 UTC
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Why vote for a party that can change nothing?
seems like a damned good reason to vote for a party.....
for the bollix n pricks, the first good reason i've seen
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Lord Turkey Cough
2007-04-16 16:56:29 UTC
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Labours record over the last ten years
Emasculated the BBC
Abolished mortgage tax relief
Hoooraaa hoorraaa!!!
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Abolished married mans tax allowance]
Hoooraaa hoorraaa!!!
Post by VAN DIESEL
In the first 8 years raised over 60 taxes even after promising to raise
none at all.
Damaged the freedom of the press
Broke manifesto promise about Student fees
Broke Manifesto promise about selling off school playing fields
Raised over 60 taxes whilst promising not to raise any
Demoralised the ARMY, FIRE SERVICE, POLICE, NURSES, DOCTORS,
DOCTOR??? HOw would they be demoralised with geting a huge pay rise
to do half the work they did before?
Post by VAN DIESEL
COUNCIL
WORKERS, TEACHERS, CIVIL SERVANTS, COUNCIL WORKERS & JOURNALISTS and now
the soldiers.
Caused civil servants to strike
Nearly caused the Police to go on strike
Nearly caused the police fire arms officers to refuse to carry guns
Started an unjust and illegal war in Iraq on the back of lying to the nation
about WMD.
Caused the unnecessary deaths of forces personal by not giving them the
protection they needed, not enough ammo, protection, medical supplies,
clothing, guns, boots, uniforms, etc
Drove the Fire Fighters to go on strike.
Caused the Police Service to try and gain the right to take industrial
action.
Screwed up Rail Privatisation .
Screwed up Railtrack.
Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics.
Post by VAN DIESEL
Surrendered to the IRA . IRA still robbing banks, knee capping, extorting
etc
Give IRA leaders Ministerial positions as reward for killing British
soldiers.
Freeing IRA murderers after only serving 18 months.
Spitting on the memory of the 3000 victims of the IRA.
Did not open fire in Croke park.
Post by VAN DIESEL
Sold off a third of the nations gold reserves under priced to support the
failing euro
Tried to give Gibraltar away against the wishes of the Brits and Gibraltans
Spend 40 billion extra on the NHS with no noticeable improvement in service
Allowed private finance hospitals be built that are not up to the job.
Allowed our soldiers to go to war with insufficient equipment after stating
to parliament and the nation that they were fully equipped to do the job.
Failed to deal with the Measles, Mumps and Rubella ( MMR) innoculation
crisis.
Let the social security budget go up by nearly 50 billion with no sign of
improvement in services.
Raised income tax, NI, Fuel tax's way above the rate of inflation.
Scrapping married couples tax allowance.
Let council tax bills go up by over 90% whilst inflation only came to 12% in
the same period.
Failed to raise pensions to cover the council tax rises thereby increasing
the poverty of our pensioners.
Forced pensioners to break the law to protest over the council tax
Caused the fuel lobby strike by grossly overtaxing the cost of petrol and
diesel .
Failed to check entry by hundreds of thousands of false asylum seekers
Did not deport the failed asylum seekers after applications to stay failed.
Failure to address race issues leading to northern race riots caused by the
extreme left SWP & ANL.
Refused to give the people a referendum over Europe and the euro
Let crime rates go up by more than 100% in 8 years ( the worst types still
rising)
Cut defence spending at one point so badly that warships could not afford
the fuel to go to sea
Encouraged the police service to concentrate on motorists not criminals
Caused the death of a government scientist.
Forced a wage settlement and contract change on Consultant doctors.
Flailed to deal with the repeat flooding problems affecting so many areas
due to global warming.
Failed to insure people trapped in high flood risk areas are either given
the right to insurance or given adequate protection from flooding
Blair promising to resign if crime was not reduced by Sept 02, then refusing
to go when the reduction failed to materialise.
Causing Chaos over the legality issues around Cannabis.
Screwing up the Student Grant system.
Letting illegal immigrants cost us 100 million on Aids Treatment.
Let asylum seekers costs exceed 1 billion pounds.
Putting someone in charge as children's minister who oversaw the blocking of
protective investigations into child abuse.
Letting London become the TB capital of the world.
Tried to close down Grammer and private schools to the public whilst
sending own kids to fee paying schools .
Letting the BSE disaster run totally out of control wrecking the farming and
tourism industries.
Oversaw the foot and mouth fiasco which saw the disease rampage across the
countryside destroying millions of animals and ruining thousands of
companies.
Tried to pass control of British military forces to the EU.
Letting thousands of service jobs go to Asia.
Allowed millions of pensioners to be left without full pensions because of
scheme windups.
Trying to create regional assemblies that will simply add another level of
taxation and burocracy to the state system.
Let old folks homes close due to lack of money only for funds to be found to
reopen the buildings for asylum seekers.
Let at least 2000 patients be turfed off a surgeries waiting list , then the
surgery reopening to serve only asylum seekers in Stockton on tees.
Wasted millions on the Millenium dome and its still costs £250,000 per month
to keep empty.
Crippled the buffering effect of the House of Lords by loading it in their
favour.
The peoples peers fantasy.
Allowed Scots MPs to vote on English Issues but not vice versa.
Giving priority under the law to asylum seekers with slight disabilities to
get priority over British nationals on the council house waiting list.
Causing the Child Support Agency fiasco where fathers were wrongly
persecuted and mother left with no money.
Causing the Air Traffic control privatisation fiasco.
Allowing building on Green belt areas.
Allowing building on Flood plains without adequate protection schemes then
refusing to help home owners who are flooded out.
Selling off school playing fields by the dozen after promising not to do so.
Building more motorways and by passes after promising to find alternative
green
options.
Not even trying to build any low cost public housing whilst letting the
building companies get away with building nothing but huge tracts of
executive housing.
Continuing with plans to build another million homes in the south east
even though the social infrastructure ( gas, water, schools, roads, power
etc) are already at maximum capacity.
David Blunkett admits to having an affair
Forcing ID cards onto the population that will have no effect on fighting
terrorism.
Causing the deaths of over 101 British servicemen in Iraq.
Fiddling election results by mass posting of rigged postal ballots
Triggered AQ attacks on the British public on 7/7
Fudged the Fox hunting ban.
Passed the ID card bill though its going to be grossly over budget and
will not prevent terrorism.
Issued an instruction to hospitals that they must treat and care for ALL
expectant mothers who arrive at their maternity units and not to pursue
them for money even if its clear they are just health tourists.
Presided over a near total collapse of the NHS dental service after trying
to force new working practises onto the dentists, which has caused
thousands of them to leave NHS practises which in turn now means millions
of people do not have access to dentists.
Decided to give 100 labour ministers brand new luxury limousines at a
cost of over 1 million pounds as a " security measure".
Mar 06 103 british troops dead in illegal war in Iraq.
Allowed hundreds of militant muslims to incite violence and hatred at a
rally London while prosecuting the BNP leader for speaking truthfully at a
private meeting.
Mar 06, 800 million NHS deficit announced, Dozens of NHS hospitals go into
the red many reports staff redundancies and cutting services.
Mar 06 the labour govt of the 60s was exposed today for sending materials
to Israel to help them make nuclear weapons, U235,Lithium 6 and 20 tons of
heavy water were given to Israel , this makes a mockery of labours anti
nuclear stance.
Mar 06 Labour was condemned audit commision for giving 6 million pounds
to pay workers wages at Rover as it collapsed.
Mar 06 In a return to Old labour ways a national strike of council workers
and civil servants brought misery to millions.
Mar 06 , it was announced this month that 50% of new labours much vaunted
of city academies are the worst schools in the UK.
New labour presides of the national embarrassment over the Wembley
football stadium which is over budget and now going to open a year late.
Sold honours for cash.
Over 8000 NHS redundancies thank to New labs mismanagement.
Poor labour laws have allowed Peugeot to close a UK factory throwing 2000
out of work.
April 06 Nurse cuts 'hit 50% of hospitals'
Nearly half of senior nurses have seen cuts in nursing posts in hospitals
in
the past year, a survey claims.
The Royal College of Nursing polled 660 nurses before their conference.
They
also said 13,000 NHS job losses have been announced in the last six
months.
John Prescott admits to having an affair or two
Govt finds multi million pound shortfall in MPS pensions, it simply dips
into tax payers money and tops it up for themselves.
Apr 06 NHS defecit is now likely to be 1.2 billion pounds
Apr 06 "
Police have siezed a quantity of Class C drugs in Defence Secretarys John
reids home.
He is quoted as saying " I have no idea where they came from"
police have said they are taking no further action
New labour have cut the amount of compensation payable to totally innocent
people who get wrongly convicted of criminal offences.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1222144,00.html
May 06 > Five illegal immigrants have been arrested after getting jobs in
the
Government department responsible for removing illegal immigrants from
the UK.
The five Nigerians were reportedly employed as cleaners in an office of
the Immigration and Nationality Directorate.
Commons Confidential: May 2006
Despatches from the House of Commons
1000 GMT, TUESDAY 23 MAY
Tory MPs are demanding a public apology from the Labour Party after it
emerged members, including ministers, took part in an auction for a copy
of the Hutton report into the death of Dr David Kelly which was
autographed by Cherie Blair.
According to a Commons motion tabled by Peterborough's Stewart Jackson,
the event took place at the Arts Club in Mayfair last week and raised £400
for party coffers.
The motion says the event was "in appalling bad taste, arrogant and
crassly insensitive in seeking to make money, albeit indirectly, through
hawking, as a novelty item, an official Government report into the death
of a public servant".
It "regrets the distress caused to the family and friends of the late Dr
Kelly; and calls on the Labour Party to apologise for such tasteless and
offensive conduct and to donate the money raised to an appropriate charity".
May 06
700 escaped open jails last year Around 700 prisoners absconded from open
prisons last year, according to the head of the Prison Service.
Phil Wheatley made the disclosure as the Home office came under fire after
a raft of allegations about its work.
Tory David Davis says ministers "took their eye off the ball" after it
emerged 393 offenders had absconded from Leyhill open prison since 1999.
But Mr Wheatley says over three quarters of absconders will have been
rearrested and returned to custody.
'Risk' of open system
He said the rate of prisoner absconders was falling and was at its lowest
level since 1999. In 2005-6, 693 prisoners absconded, compared with 831 in
2004
Criminal records mix-up uncovered Some 2,700 people have been wrongly
labelled as criminals by the Criminal Records Bureau (CRB), it has emerged.
The mistakes have led to some people being turned down for jobs.
The Home Office said the errors arose when personal details were similar
to those of people with a conviction, but were "a tiny proportion of
cases".
May 06
Murderers walk out of open prison More than 20 convicted murderers
absconded from Leyhill Open Prison near Bristol in the last five years,
according to new figures.
The information came to light after Yeovil MP David Laws tabled
parliamentary questions to Home Office minister Gerry Sutcliffe.
Six rapists were also among those who have absconded from Leyhill since
1999.
The figures follow a BBC investigation which showed more than 300 inmates
absconded in the past three years.
Mr Sutcliffe said: "As soon as a prisoner is found to have absconded from
an open prison the local police are informed immediately.
Labour Killed the 10 RAF crew
RAF pilots 'asked for tank foam'
The deaths of 10 UK personnel in Iraq in January 2005 could have been
avoided if a safety device was fitted to their Hercules plane, the BBC
has
learned.
RAF pilots requested that explosive- suppressant foam devices be fitted
to
fuel tanks two years before the attack in which the men died, RAF papers
show.
The Ministry of Defence said none of its planes in Iraq or Afghanistan
have the foam, but some will be fitted soon.
The foam has been in use in US Hercules aircraft since the Vietnam war.
Foreign criminals escape removal.
Charles Clarke has apologised for the release of more than 1,000 foreign
prisoners who should have been deported at the end of their sentence.
The number includes three murderers and nine rapists, Home Office figures
show.
Mr Clarke said he could not say "hand on heart" that they would all be
tracked down, "but we are working on that very energetically".
He said the failure was "deeply regrettable" and conceded that people will
be angered by the oversight.
The home secretary said the prisoners, who were released between February
1999 and March 2006, should have been considered for deportation or removal.
So far the Immigration and Nationality Directorate (IND) has located 107
of the total, leading to 20 deportations.
The Sunday Times March 12, 2006
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2081801,00.html
Blair gave 'honours for loans'
Jon Ungoed-Thomas and Robert Winnett
A MILLIONAIRE businessman has lifted the lid on how Labour is
concealing money given by wealthy backers who are then nominated for
peerages.
Labour has raised up to £10m from donors but has hidden the payments
because they were made as loans, which do not have to be declared.
Three of the donors were put forward for peerages by Tony Blair last
autumn.
Mar 06 BBC News unemployed number up by 37,000 taking the number on JCS to
over 1.5 million, add to those the nearly 2 ,million on incapacity
benefits, asylum seekers, illegal immigrants and health tourists.
Subject: Labour's Transport Failure
'I will have failed," John Prescott told us upon taking office in 1997,
"if
in five years time there are not many more people using public transport
and
far fewer journeys by car." Having missed his target by some margin - car
usage rose sharply between then and 2002 - Mr Prescott somehow forgot to
admit to his self-defined failure and resign. In fact, the Government has
learned nothing, in that it is still setting targets that will leave it
looking foolish in just a few years from now.
Several times since 2000, the Government has committed itself to
increasing
usage of the railways - as measured in passenger-miles - by 50 per cent in
10 years. If this target were to be achieved, few passengers would be
minded
to sing the praises of the Deputy Prime Minister. They would do well even
to
gasp, such will be the overcrowding. As we report today, the Office of
Rail
Regulation revealed last month that there won't be any more trains to
carry
the extra passengers: rail capacity is likely to increase by a mere 2 per
cent between now and 2014.
Yet another stunning new labour failure
Poverty rate 'rose under Labour' Relative poverty in the UK may have risen
since 1997, rather than fallen, says the Institute for Fiscal Studies.
The usual measure is the proportion of households whose income is less
than 60% of the median household income.
That suggests that the poverty rate fell from 25% to 22% of households
between 1996/97 and 2002/03.
But the IFS says that if household spending is measured instead, then over
the same period of time the poverty rate rose from 20% to 22%.
Using spending as a measure, the IFS also finds that the poverty rate
among children increased
Timeline of health service jobs cuts
Hospital job cuts that will run into more than 7,000 have been announced
in
recent weeks as the NHS struggles to balance the books.
13 April
Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust to shed up to 800 jobs at
its three Birmingham and Black Country sites. The trust, which runs City,
Sandwell and Rowley Regis hospitals, has a deficit of £6m, but said it
plans
to save £20m in the next year.
11 April
The West Hertfordshire Hospitals NHS Trust said up to 500 jobs would have
to
go in the next 12 to 18 months to help tackle debts of £28.6m.
The trust said it would cut back on temporary staff - reducing the number
of
permanent staff affected.
7 April
York Hospital is to cut 200 jobs in a move to save £2.5m. The savings from
jobs are part of a wider £7m cost-cutting package.
6 April
The Worcestershire Acute Hospitals NHS Trust announces 720 losses. It
needs
to save £30m.
5 April
The Royal United Hospital NHS Trust in Bath announces that 300 jobs are to
go.
4 April
Surrey and Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust, which manages Crawley Hospital and
East Surrey Hospital, announces 400 jobs cuts as it tries to reduce a £2m
a
month overspend and a total debt of £41.2m.
3 April
Up to 160 jobs to go at the Medway Maritime Hospital in Gillingham, Kent,
the trust confirms. It needs to save £11m in 2006-07 and claw back a £1m
overspend from last year.
29 March
Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust announces plans to cut
325 posts to save £10m.
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital NHS Trust in Woolwich says up to 100 jobs
could
go to save £10m.
Mid Staffordshire General Hospitals NHS Trust plans to cut more than 150
jobs, to save £10m next year.
28 March
Gloucestershire Health NHS Community confirms plans to close an 86-bed
hospital and says jobs may also go.
27 March
The Norwich and Norfolk University Hospital says it will need to make cuts
to address a £22m shortfall.
24 March
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust says 74 jobs including 21 specialist
specialist nursing jobs are "at risk".
23 March
East Kent Hospitals Trust gives warning of possible cuts to claw back a
£35m
deficit.
County Durham and Darlington Acute Hospitals NHS Trust announces up to 700
job cuts over the next three years.
22 March
Queen Mary's, Sidcup, south-east London says it will consult over the loss
of 190 jobs.
The Royal Free Hospital, north-west London, announces 480 posts and 100
beds
cut to save £25m and reduce a £13m deficit.
20 March
Plymouth Hospitals NHS Trust announces around 200 job cuts to make savings
of £22m.
About 300 job losses are announced at Shropshire's two main hospitals, the
Princess Royal Hospital and Royal Shrewsbury Hospital.
Health chiefs announce 300 job cuts in Wolverhampton to claw back a £38m
deficit.
16 March
Up to 1,000 jobs to go at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire
NHS
Trust, Stoke-on-Trent, with up to 750 compulsory redundancies.
13 March
Peterborough and Stamford Hospitals NHS Trust will lose 185 jobs and plans
to shut an operating theatre to save £2m.
10 March
The United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust, which has £17.5m debt, says
there will be major job losses.
8 March
Royal Cornwall Hospitals Trust, which is facing an £8.1m shortfall,
announces it is set to cut 300 staff.
Surrey and Sussex Strategic Health Authority says it is expecting an £83m
deficit.
1 March
Selby and York Primary Care Trust announces jobs will have to go as part
of
a plan to tackle debts of £23.7m.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/health/4887170.stm
Published: 2006/04/13 13:46:09 GMT
© BBC MMVI
Migrants wrongly get tax credits Thousands of immigrants have received tax
credits they were not entitled to, BBC News has learned.
Officials decided they did not need to prove they were eligible. All they
needed to make a claim was a national insurance (NI) number.
But on 1 June it emerged that thousands of workers suspected of being
illegal immigrants were given NI numbers.
Between April 2003 and December 2004, 2,700 families were wrongly paid
credits by the Inland Revenue.
The credits each could have been worth more than £10,000 in some cases.
Overpayments to families have averaged £1,000 a year so if all the 2,700
families had claimed for the whole of this time it would amount to millions.
blair in 2003to sieze the assets of criminals, £60 million to set up , £8
Million recovered, what a joke they
are.
June 19
UK budget deficit hits new record The UK has posted a record budget
deficit for the public sector in May.
The May current deficit was £8.7bn, £1bn higher than a year ago, the
Office for National Statistics (ONS) said.
Public Sector Net Borrowing (PSNB) - which includes capital investment -
showed a deficit of £10bn, the second highest figure on record.
Rising government spending was mainly responsible, the ONS said, although
lower corporate tax receipts also contributed.
Another measure of public borrowing, the public sector net cash
requirement, reached £7.4bn, £2.3bn higher than one year ago, and the
highest for May on record.
June 20th, New Labours much vaunted NHS computer system is now 2 years
late and instead of the 2 billion cost forecast by the Blairites its
actually now passing 12 billion and rising, at least they are consistent
with their screwing up and over expenditure on the passport system and
air traffic control system with the ID card system set to follow suite
Not to mention the dodgy dealings of Keith Vaz, Peter Mandelson , Geofrey
Robertson , Dianne Abbot, Margaret Hodge, John Prescott and Tony Blair etc
over sending there kids to private schools, smuggling immigrants, dodgy
house deals. mortgage fraud, lying to parliament. selling off British steel
etc
These are a few of the benefits of voting for Nu Labour, Britain truly has
exactly the type of government it deserves. I hope we get at least another 8
years of this govt the country deserves nothing less.
The Labour govt's desperate attempts to make the CSA work for the benefits
of the parents and children has failed again ( nothing new there for
labour then) when the CSA systems just about collapsed just over a year
ago , the morons of New labour said they could fix it ( like the NHS by
pouring money into it) They gave the CSA another 539 million pounds which
apart from creating even more civil service jobs has not helped the needy
parents at all. Yup 539 million pound with no improvement in service. BBC
and Sky news June 30 2006
July 06 Labour govt does U turn on forced amalgamations of police forces,
even though only 2 weeks prior they insisted there would never be a U turn.
July 06 Labour now says ID card scheme may be downgraded but the costs
stay the same.
July 06 John Prescott formally rebuked for his relationship with a rich
american businessman who was tendering for contracts with the UK govt.
July 06 the Home Sec admitted that it had grossly underestimated the
amount of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers remaining in the UK,
Estimates now exceed 480,000 where as New labour only a few short weeks
ago insisted it was less than 200,000
July 06 new labour does yet another 180 degree turn this time on the "
compulsory house buyers information and survey package.
August 06 After New labour and its supporters accused anyone who expressed
concerns about unchecked mass migrations from the Baltic states as
unfounded, racists, and untrue. Stating that no more than 15,000 Poles,
Latvians etc would come to the UK. It was announced today that 600,000 had
arrived in one year with 40,000 Poles arriving in the last 3 months
causing a huge over burden and strain on public services.
Aug 2006 New Labour scrap a computer system as unworkable, for paying
benefits out after wasting £150 million pounds on the system.
Sept 19 2006
After New Labour spent 50 million pounds on an anti truancy campaign it
was revealed today that truancy numbers had risen by 40% to over 50,000
children a day staying away from school illegally.
9 November Sky News
It was announced today that the British armed forces moral was at an all
time low with over 10,000 troops leaving the services each year, poor kit,
bad wages, fear of prosecution, and over deployment were all cited as
reasons for this. It was also announced that the National audit office
says the forces are grossly over commited and very understaffed and
resourced.
March 07
140 British dead in Blairs illegal war
The RN totally humiliated because of the governments handly of the hostage
crisis where 15 sailors were captured by Iran
Public sector workers such as cops, nurses, firemen etc can not afford to
by a home in
Seven out of ten towns in the UK
School truancy rates are at an all time record high, even after Labours 50
million pound campaign to fight it
Violent attacks against Teachers , firemen and NHS staff is at an all time
high
Council tax has risen over 90% since Labour came to power
Violent crime has risen over 60%
Gun crime over 120%
Over 1,000,000 illegal immigrants and failed asylum seekers are living in
the Uk at the tax payers expense.
And don't forget folks
its never the labourites fault.
--
Work Harder, Millions on benefits needs your taxes.
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 17:01:28 UTC
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Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men murdered
14 English officers asleep in their beds
jb
2007-04-16 17:14:16 UTC
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Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men murdered
14 English officers asleep in their beds
Sorry Steve you've got that wrong.
Only ten of them were English.
None of them was shot whilst they were asleep.
Still not a bad try.
After eight hundred years of occupation, after seven hundred years of a
native born Catholic Irishman not being allowed to own property in his own
country.
At least the Irish had the balls to fight the English, not roll over and
play dead like the Scotch and the Welch.
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 17:31:40 UTC
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Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men murdered
14 English officers asleep in their beds
Sorry Steve you've got that wrong.
Only ten of them were English.
None of them was shot whilst they were asleep.
Still not a bad try.
The IRA attacked these guys all 14 of them while they were off duty at
home or in their lodgings, they even took one guy in front of his wife and
shot him dead. Oh and at least the scots and welsh were brave enough to
fight honourably, not bombing and maining the defenceless, but the irish had
hundreds of years to learn how to kill innocent women and kids I saw the
effect first hand back in the seventies.
Lord Turkey Cough
2007-04-16 17:49:49 UTC
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Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men murdered
14 English officers asleep in their beds
English spys who were involved in the murderof inocennt catholics.
Targetted legetimate targets not indiscriminate shooting into a crowd
at a sporting event.
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 17:56:43 UTC
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Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men murdered
14 English officers asleep in their beds
English spys who were involved in the murderof inocennt catholics.
Targetted legetimate targets not indiscriminate shooting into a crowd
at a sporting event.
Uniformed officers shot when at home when off duty.
Lord Turkey Cough
2007-04-16 18:21:34 UTC
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Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men
murdered 14 English officers asleep in their beds
English spys who were involved in the murderof inocennt catholics.
Targetted legetimate targets not indiscriminate shooting into a crowd
at a sporting event.
Uniformed officers shot when at home when off duty.
These were undercover agents involved in targeting IRA men
for assination, they were shot after 9am. What would they be doing
in bed at the hour?

(Captain Crawford ) "They decided not to shoot him as he was not on the hit
list; instead they gave him 24 hours to leave Ireland, which he promptly
did."

So clearly targetting the guilty.
B***@isp.com
2007-04-19 02:42:38 UTC
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Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men
murdered 14 English officers asleep in their beds
English spys who were involved in the murderof inocennt catholics.
Targetted legetimate targets not indiscriminate shooting into a crowd
at a sporting event.
Uniformed officers shot when at home when off duty.
These were undercover agents involved in targeting IRA men
for assination, they were shot after 9am. What would they be doing in bed at the hour?
Since when have IRA men been "innocent"? They were/are
legitimate targets at all hours of the day and night.
Post by Lord Turkey Cough
(Captain Crawford ) "They decided not to shoot him as he was not on the hit list; instead they gave him 24 hours to leave Ireland, which he promptly did."
I *do* hope they didn't flee to Liverpool or Warrington. and
having reached Warrington decided to murder two English
children while they were out buying their mother a Mother's
Day Card.

RIP Jonathan Ball. RIP Tim Parry.
Post by Lord Turkey Cough
So clearly targetting the guilty.
British soldiers get paid to defend those who pay their
wages. They joined up to defend Queen and country.
and if the filth of the bolshie IRA are murdering British
citizens, they have a duty to respond in kind.

"I couldn't care less about a United Ireland, I want a
United Socialist Ireland".
Mass murderer Gerry Adams the day after his goons
killed a man, his wife and young daughter in Belfast.
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2007-04-19 04:59:13 UTC
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Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men
murdered 14 English officers asleep in their beds
English spys who were involved in the murderof inocennt catholics.
Targetted legetimate targets not indiscriminate shooting into a crowd
at a sporting event.
Uniformed officers shot when at home when off duty.
These were undercover agents involved in targeting IRA men
for assination, they were shot after 9am. What would they be doing in bed at the hour?
Since when have IRA men been "innocent"? They were/are
legitimate targets at all hours of the day and night.
Post by Lord Turkey Cough
(Captain Crawford ) "They decided not to shoot him as he was not on the
hit list; instead they gave him 24 hours to leave Ireland, which he
promptly did."
I *do* hope they didn't flee to Liverpool or Warrington. and
having reached Warrington decided to murder two English
children while they were out buying their mother a Mother's
Day Card.
I think you will find that the English armiesin Ireland murdered more than
two children in Ireland,Cromwells armie skilled thousnds
(wiki)
"The Parliamentarian reconquest of Ireland was extremely brutal, and it has
been alleged that many of the army's actions during the reconquest would
today be called war crimes."
So you can stuff your ironic bleating up your a**e.
Post by B***@isp.com
RIP Jonathan Ball. RIP Tim Parry.
Who were not specificlly targeted, collaterial damage is the term.
Post by B***@isp.com
Post by Lord Turkey Cough
So clearly targetting the guilty.
British soldiers get paid to defend those who pay their
wages. They joined up to defend Queen and country.
and if the filth of the bolshie IRA are murdering British
citizens, they have a duty to respond in kind.
And the Irish are entitled to defend themselves against the filth who
illegally
invaded their country and reduced the population to slavery.
Post by B***@isp.com
"I couldn't care less about a United Ireland, I want a
United Socialist Ireland".
Mass murderer Gerry Adams the day after his goons
killed a man, his wife and young daughter in Belfast.
What about the mass murders the English commited in Ireland, not on the
noble grounds of defending/reclaiming their own country but on the criminal
motivations of a mugger after some free cash my robbing and murdering his
neighbour, you scourilous troll.
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2007-04-16 18:18:30 UTC
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Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men murdered
14 English officers asleep in their beds
Elite intelligence officers.

The Cairo Gang's members were put up in boarding houses across Dublin, where
they lived unobtrusively while preparing a "hit list" of known republican.

So they were legitimate targets by any stretch of the imagination, not
innnocent
people attending a sporting event.
VAN DIESEL
2007-04-16 18:29:07 UTC
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Captilalism Is The Unequal Sharing Of Wealth
Socialism Is the Equal Sharing Of Misery.
Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men murdered
14 English officers asleep in their beds
Elite intelligence officers.
The Cairo Gang's members were put up in boarding houses across Dublin,
where they lived unobtrusively while preparing a "hit list" of known
republican.
So they were legitimate targets by any stretch of the imagination, not
innnocent
people attending a sporting event.
Aye just the same way the IRA say blowing up buses full of army wives and
kids are legitimate, and shopping malls, and highstreeyts on a busy
saturday, and rememberance services, Aye just as legimate as hiding snipers
behind rows of kids in Belfast, so noble so brave, the courage of putting a
bomb on Louis Mount Battens boat was so noble and legitimate, just like
luring to 17 yr old boy soldiers to a flat in Belfast and shooting them in
the head.
Lord Turkey Cough
2007-04-16 18:39:56 UTC
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Post by VAN DIESEL
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Captilalism Is The Unequal Sharing Of Wealth
Socialism Is the Equal Sharing Of Misery.
Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men
murdered 14 English officers asleep in their beds
Elite intelligence officers.
The Cairo Gang's members were put up in boarding houses across Dublin,
where they lived unobtrusively while preparing a "hit list" of known
republican.
So they were legitimate targets by any stretch of the imagination, not
innnocent
people attending a sporting event.
Aye just the same way the IRA say blowing up buses full of army wives and
kids are legitimate, and shopping malls, and highstreeyts on a busy
saturday, and rememberance services, Aye just as legimate as hiding
snipers behind rows of kids in Belfast, so noble so brave, the courage of
putting a bomb on Louis Mount Battens boat was so noble and legitimate,
just like luring to 17 yr old boy soldiers to a flat in Belfast and
shooting them in the head.
Year old adult soldier.

And invading Ireland in the first place and going on a murdering spree
was that legitimate? Eh? Or did that slip your mind?
The English had been murdering innocent Irish for decades, stealing their
land and food.They can hardly complain when their army is attacked.
I mean, what are you on?


So tell me about Englands illegal invasion of Ireland before you start
spouting your cr*p.
B***@isp.com
2007-04-19 02:51:33 UTC
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--
Captilalism Is The Unequal Sharing Of Wealth
Socialism Is the Equal Sharing Of Misery.
Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Stopped presectuing Iirsh catholics. It didnt stop trhem killing and
robbing banks though
Did not open fire in Croke park. Right after the Brave IRA men murdered
14 English officers asleep in their beds
Elite intelligence officers.
The Cairo Gang's members were put up in boarding houses across Dublin,
where they lived unobtrusively while preparing a "hit list" of known
republican.
So they were legitimate targets by any stretch of the imagination, not
innnocent
people attending a sporting event.
Aye just the same way the IRA say blowing up buses full of army wives and
kids are legitimate, and shopping malls, and highstreeyts on a busy
saturday, and rememberance services, Aye just as legimate as hiding snipers
behind rows of kids in Belfast, so noble so brave, the courage of putting a
bomb on Louis Mount Battens boat was so noble and legitimate, just like
luring to 17 yr old boy soldiers to a flat in Belfast and shooting them in
the head.
The IRA and those who support them are the scum of the earth,
they get their guts from a bottle and most of them are
living off the benefit money that the English pay in taxes.
The tart Bernadette Devlin said "I am a Trotskyite" even as she
sat in Parliament after swearing allegience to The Queen.
The Irish in England are very lucky that the English didn't
"drive them to the boats" after the murder of so many
innocent English men, women and children. I notice
that the filth of the IRA didn't murder anyone in Edinburgh
or Cardiff, I was under the impression that *cotland
and Wales were part of the United Kingdom.

Let them get out of Ulster if life is so hard for them there.
All they have to do is walk down the road and they will be
in the place where their real loyalties lie.

The present bolshie IRA was nazi during WW2. It seems
they can't keep their political alliances straight from one
day to the next.


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2007-04-16 17:09:07 UTC
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Labours record over the last ten years
Emasculated the BBC
Abolished mortgage tax relief
Hoooraaa hoorraaa!!!
Post by VAN DIESEL
Abolished married mans tax allowance]
Hoooraaa hoorraaa!!!
Post by VAN DIESEL
In the first 8 years raised over 60 taxes even after promising to raise
none at all.
Damaged the freedom of the press
Broke manifesto promise about Student fees
Broke Manifesto promise about selling off school playing fields
Raised over 60 taxes whilst promising not to raise any
Demoralised the ARMY, FIRE SERVICE, POLICE, NURSES, DOCTORS,
DOCTOR??? HOw would they be demoralised with geting a huge pay rise
to do half the work they did before?
Troll!
Lord Turkey Cough
2007-04-16 17:44:46 UTC
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Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Post by VAN DIESEL
Labours record over the last ten years
Emasculated the BBC
Abolished mortgage tax relief
Hoooraaa hoorraaa!!!
Post by VAN DIESEL
Abolished married mans tax allowance]
Hoooraaa hoorraaa!!!
Post by VAN DIESEL
In the first 8 years raised over 60 taxes even after promising to raise
none at all.
Damaged the freedom of the press
Broke manifesto promise about Student fees
Broke Manifesto promise about selling off school playing fields
Raised over 60 taxes whilst promising not to raise any
Demoralised the ARMY, FIRE SERVICE, POLICE, NURSES, DOCTORS,
DOCTOR??? HOw would they be demoralised with geting a huge pay rise
to do half the work they did before?
Troll!
Your not very good at this are you.
jb
2007-04-17 13:01:02 UTC
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Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Post by jb
Post by Lord Turkey Cough
Post by VAN DIESEL
Labours record over the last ten years
Emasculated the BBC
Abolished mortgage tax relief
Hoooraaa hoorraaa!!!
Post by VAN DIESEL
Abolished married mans tax allowance]
Hoooraaa hoorraaa!!!
Post by VAN DIESEL
In the first 8 years raised over 60 taxes even after promising to raise
none at all.
Damaged the freedom of the press
Broke manifesto promise about Student fees
Broke Manifesto promise about selling off school playing fields
Raised over 60 taxes whilst promising not to raise any
Demoralised the ARMY, FIRE SERVICE, POLICE, NURSES, DOCTORS,
DOCTOR??? HOw would they be demoralised with geting a huge pay rise
to do half the work they did before?
Troll!
Your not very good at this are you.
that wood bee you are not or you're not, your tiny dick is frozen>
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